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From: richard.brunner@amd.com
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: RE: IOMMUs was Re: Intel vs AMD x86-64
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 09:50:02 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <99F2150714F93F448942F9A9F112634C0FD384E3@txexmtae.amd.com> (raw)


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andi Kleen [mailto:ak@suse.de] 

 
> On Opteron the IOMMU code (ab)uses the built in AGPv3 GART in 
> the CPU, which 
> was originally intended for AGP. AMD converted it to be able 
> to remap PCI especially for Linux, which I think deserves applause.
> 
> It works surprisingly well even though it was not designed as 
> a real IOMMU. Of course one of the main advantages of a real 
> IOMMU - preventing arbitary memory corruption from broken 
> devices - is lost because the remapping table is just a hole 
> in the memory. I'm 
> secretly hoping that when there is more support for Linux at 
> chipset vendors they will someday add a bit to isolate all 
> traffic that doesn't go through the GART from the main 
> memory. This way you could get a much more reliable system 
> that can tolerate broken PCI devices at a moderate 
> performance penalty.

Andi is being modest. It was he and Andrea Arcangeli who convinced 
me we had a problem. We found a way to trick the AGP
GART hardware into helping, and then they turned it into a 
"real" solution and helped us work the warts out of the BIOS 
to enable it.


             reply	other threads:[~2004-02-24 15:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-02-24 15:50 richard.brunner [this message]
2004-02-24 16:27 ` Mike Fedyk
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44.0402231625220.9708-100000@chimarrao.boston.redhat.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.58.0402231335430.3005@ppc970.osdl.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]   ` <20040223134853.5947a414.davem@redhat.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]     ` <Pine.LNX.4.58.0402231359280.3005@ppc970.osdl.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2004-02-24 14:06       ` Andi Kleen
2004-02-24 18:13         ` David S. Miller
2004-02-27  1:28           ` Andi Kleen
2004-02-24 18:41             ` David S. Miller
2004-02-25  0:36             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt

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