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From: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
To: Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@arm.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/2] sched/fair: Add NOHZ balancer flag for nohz.next_balance updates
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 15:53:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <99b4c9d6-d20c-bc94-58c0-c1f5249b2636@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fsv02u9h.mognet@arm.com>

On 23/08/2021 14:57, Valentin Schneider wrote:
> On 23/08/21 13:59, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 12:16:59PM +0100, Valentin Schneider wrote:
>>
>>> Gate NOHZ blocked load
>>> update by the presence of NOHZ_STATS_KICK - currently all NOHZ balance
>>> kicks will have the NOHZ_STATS_KICK flag set, so no change in behaviour is
>>> expected.
>>
>>> @@ -10572,7 +10572,8 @@ static void _nohz_idle_balance(struct rq *this_rq, unsigned int flags,
>>>       * setting the flag, we are sure to not clear the state and not
>>>       * check the load of an idle cpu.
>>>       */
>>> -	WRITE_ONCE(nohz.has_blocked, 0);
>>> +	if (flags & NOHZ_STATS_KICK)
>>> +		WRITE_ONCE(nohz.has_blocked, 0);
>>>
>>>      /*
>>>       * Ensures that if we miss the CPU, we must see the has_blocked
>>> @@ -10594,13 +10595,15 @@ static void _nohz_idle_balance(struct rq *this_rq, unsigned int flags,
>>>               * balancing owner will pick it up.
>>>               */
>>>              if (need_resched()) {
>>> -			has_blocked_load = true;
>>> +			if (flags & NOHZ_STATS_KICK)
>>> +				has_blocked_load = true;
>>>                      goto abort;
>>>              }
>>>
>>>              rq = cpu_rq(balance_cpu);
>>>
>>> -		has_blocked_load |= update_nohz_stats(rq);
>>> +		if (flags & NOHZ_STATS_KICK)
>>> +			has_blocked_load |= update_nohz_stats(rq);
>>>
>>>              /*
>>>               * If time for next balance is due,
>>> @@ -10631,8 +10634,9 @@ static void _nohz_idle_balance(struct rq *this_rq, unsigned int flags,
>>>      if (likely(update_next_balance))
>>>              nohz.next_balance = next_balance;
>>>
>>> -	WRITE_ONCE(nohz.next_blocked,
>>> -		now + msecs_to_jiffies(LOAD_AVG_PERIOD));
>>> +	if (flags & NOHZ_STATS_KICK)
>>> +		WRITE_ONCE(nohz.next_blocked,
>>> +			   now + msecs_to_jiffies(LOAD_AVG_PERIOD));
>>>
>>>  abort:
>>>      /* There is still blocked load, enable periodic update */
>>
>> I'm a bit puzzled by this; that function has:
>>
>>   SCHED_WARN_ON((flags & NOHZ_KICK_MASK) == NOHZ_BALANCE_KICK);
>>
>> Which:
>>
>>  - isn't updated
>>  - implies STATS must be set when BALANCE
> 
> Yup
> 
>>
>> the latter gives rise to my confusion; why add that gate on STATS? It
>> just doesn't make sense to do a BALANCE and not update STATS.
> 
> AFAIA that warning was only there to catch BALANCE && !STATS, so I didn't
> tweak it.
> 
> Now, you could still end up with
> 
>   flags == NOHZ_NEXT_KICK
> 
> (e.g. nohz.next_balance is in the future, but a new CPU entered NOHZ-idle
> and needs its own rq.next_balance collated into the nohz struct)
> 
> in which case you don't do any blocked load update, hence the
> gate. In v1 I had that piggyback on NOHZ_STATS_KICK, but Vincent noted
> that might not be the best given blocked load updates can be time
> consuming - hence the separate flag.

Maybe the confusion stems from the fact that the NOHZ_NEXT_KICK-set
changes are only introduced in 2/2?

@@ -10417,6 +10418,9 @@ static void nohz_balancer_kick(struct rq *rq)
 unlock:
 	rcu_read_unlock();
 out:
+	if (READ_ONCE(nohz.needs_update))
+		flags |= NOHZ_NEXT_KICK;
+

@@ -10513,12 +10517,13 @@ void nohz_balance_enter_idle(int cpu)

...

+	WRITE_ONCE(nohz.needs_update, 1);

  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-23 13:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-23 11:16 [PATCH v3 0/2] sched/fair: nohz.next_balance vs newly-idle CPUs Valentin Schneider
2021-08-23 11:16 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] sched/fair: Add NOHZ balancer flag for nohz.next_balance updates Valentin Schneider
2021-08-23 11:59   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-08-23 12:57     ` Valentin Schneider
2021-08-23 13:53       ` Dietmar Eggemann [this message]
2021-08-24  8:11         ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-08-24  9:08   ` Vincent Guittot
2021-09-09 11:18   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Valentin Schneider
2021-10-05 14:12   ` tip-bot2 for Valentin Schneider
2021-08-23 11:17 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] sched/fair: Trigger nohz.next_balance updates when a CPU goes NOHZ-idle Valentin Schneider
2021-08-24  9:08   ` Vincent Guittot
2021-09-09 11:18   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Valentin Schneider
2021-10-05 14:12   ` tip-bot2 for Valentin Schneider

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