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From: "Rustad, Mark D" <mark.d.rustad@intel.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: "sparse@chrisli.org" <sparse@chrisli.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"richard.weinberger@gmail.com" <richard.weinberger@gmail.com>,
	"linux-sparse@vger.kernel.org" <linux-sparse@vger.kernel.org>,
	"mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"Kirsher, Jeffrey T" <jeffrey.t.kirsher@intel.com>,
	"computersforpeace@gmail.com" <computersforpeace@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched: Remove nested extern
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 21:50:44 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9C9DCC69-1F75-4241-A022-FFB9B6A11AC5@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140922212105.GD3128@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net>

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On Sep 22, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 08:59:32PM +0000, Rustad, Mark D wrote:
>> Because I have found that enabling many warnings helps identify problems
>> in code and it has been my standard practice since about 1999 to do so.
>> The compiler warnings are really just another form of static analysis,
>> and I use it routinely on every compile. Here is how routinely: I have
>> W=1 in my environment, W=12 is just too painful. I would change that
>> default to W=12 if it wasn't insane to do so.
> 
> Many warnings are just plain insane and stupid. They're not helping
> anybody. There's a very good reason many are disabled. I'm sure you can
> find some entertaining discussions on the topic if you search the LKML
> archives.

That is what I used to think. -Wshadow for example. What's the problem? It
is perfectly valid C. Well, I recently sent a patch that changed some
function parameters that used the name jiffies, which of course shadowed
the well-known global. If a macro were ever called in those functions
whose expansion ever tried to access jiffies, well it wouldn't do what
was expected. Not a bug now, but a trap for the future. I only found that
because I either resolved or silenced enough warnings to see something interesting.

Over the years I think I have resolved real bugs revealed by probably nearly
every one of the additional warning messages. They do have value, but that
value is typically lost if the norm is a flood of messages. Apple would not
have had their SSL problem if they had had -Wunreachable-code enabled and
noticed the message.

-- 
Mark Rustad, Networking Division, Intel Corporation


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  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-22 21:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-19 15:29 [PATCH 0/7] Silence even more W=2 warnings Jeff Kirsher
2014-09-19 15:29 ` [PATCH 1/7] compiler: Add diagnostic control macros Jeff Kirsher
2014-09-19 15:29 ` [PATCH 2/7] x86: Silence initializer-overrides warnings Jeff Kirsher
2014-09-19 15:29 ` [PATCH 3/7] atomic: Silence nested-externs warnings Jeff Kirsher
2014-09-19 20:43   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-19 20:53     ` Jeff Kirsher
2014-09-19 15:29 ` [PATCH 4/7] bitops: " Jeff Kirsher
2014-09-19 15:29 ` [PATCH 5/7] signal: " Jeff Kirsher
2014-09-19 15:35   ` Richard Weinberger
2014-09-19 15:37     ` Jeff Kirsher
2014-09-19 15:39       ` Richard Weinberger
2014-09-19 17:20         ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-09-19 21:21           ` Josh Triplett
2014-09-19 21:26             ` Rustad, Mark D
2014-09-21 16:42             ` [PATCH 0/1] signal: use BUILD_BUG() instead of _NSIG_WORDS_is_unsupported_size() Oleg Nesterov
2014-09-21 16:43               ` [PATCH 1/1] " Oleg Nesterov
2014-09-22 17:26                 ` Josh Triplett
2014-09-19 15:29 ` [PATCH 6/7] mm: Silence nested-externs warnings Jeff Kirsher
2014-09-19 15:29 ` [PATCH 7/7] sched: " Jeff Kirsher
2014-09-19 19:34   ` Richard Weinberger
2014-09-19 20:34     ` Rustad, Mark D
2014-09-19 20:41       ` Richard Weinberger
2014-09-19 20:49         ` Rustad, Mark D
2014-09-22 17:55     ` [PATCH] sched: Remove nested extern Mark D Rustad
2014-09-22 18:25       ` Josh Triplett
2014-09-22 19:01       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-22 19:32         ` Rustad, Mark D
2014-09-22 20:05           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-22 20:59             ` Rustad, Mark D
2014-09-22 21:21               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-22 21:50                 ` Rustad, Mark D [this message]
2014-09-24  7:41                   ` Ingo Molnar
2014-09-24  7:52                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-24  7:58                       ` Ingo Molnar
2014-09-19 22:54   ` [PATCH 7/7] sched: Silence nested-externs warnings Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-19 23:26     ` Rustad, Mark D
2014-09-22 15:33 ` [PATCH 0/7] Silence even more W=2 warnings Borislav Petkov
2014-09-22 17:06   ` Rustad, Mark D
2014-09-22 18:40     ` Borislav Petkov
2014-09-22 18:59       ` Rustad, Mark D
2014-09-22 19:21         ` Borislav Petkov
2014-09-22 19:44           ` Jeff Kirsher
2014-09-22 19:57             ` Borislav Petkov
2014-09-22 20:09               ` Jeff Kirsher
2014-09-22 20:33                 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-09-22 21:21                   ` Jeff Kirsher
2014-09-23  8:01                     ` Borislav Petkov
2014-09-23 14:49                       ` Josh Triplett
2014-09-23 16:08                         ` Borislav Petkov
2014-09-23 16:29                         ` Rustad, Mark D
2014-09-25  7:45                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-09-25 16:44                       ` Borislav Petkov
2014-09-26 19:37                       ` Rustad, Mark D
2014-09-26 19:58                         ` josh
2014-09-26 21:07                           ` Rustad, Mark D
2014-09-22 21:50                   ` Rustad, Mark D
2014-09-23  8:22                     ` Borislav Petkov
2014-09-23 17:24                       ` Rustad, Mark D
2014-09-23 18:44                         ` Borislav Petkov
2014-09-23 19:04                           ` Joe Perches
2014-09-23 20:43                           ` Rustad, Mark D
2014-09-25  8:27                             ` Borislav Petkov
2014-09-25  0:17                           ` Rustad, Mark D

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