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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Ian Lance Taylor <iant@golang.org>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>,
	Mikael Pettersson <mikpelinux@gmail.com>,
	Russ Cox <rsc@golang.org>, Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/2] __vdso_findsym
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2014 12:31:17 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9a4fb9c9-4b1c-4593-a99e-a2ef2325d55d@email.android.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKOQZ8zD7kyEmujCtTA8pm=wrM6vDJ5Yspfn1AkSydffhBus2g@mail.gmail.com>

The weak symbols are well-known names.  The __vdso symbols are strong.

On June 15, 2014 12:22:17 PM PDT, Ian Lance Taylor <iant@golang.org> wrote:
>On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 12:14 PM, H. Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com> wrote:
>>
>> If it doesn't, then you incur an additional indirection penalty.  The
>strong __vdso symbol allows the libc wrapper to fall back to the vdso
>implementation, the weak symbol allows three to be no wrapper at all. 
>This is good.
>>
>> The reason for changing ABI would be shifting types.  This is very
>much how glibc manages transitions.
>
>The purpose of symbol versioning is so that symbols with well known
>names, like stat, can continue to use those same names while changing
>types.  Both old and new programs can continue to use the name stat
>and continue to work even though they use different types.
>
>I don't see how this applies to the kernel VDSO.  Those symbols do not
>use well-known names; they use names like __vdso_time.  If you change
>the types used by those symbols, you can change the name as well.
>What is the downside?
>
>Ian

-- 
Sent from my mobile phone.  Please pardon brevity and lack of formatting.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-15 19:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-14 18:16 Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-14 18:16 ` [RFC 1/2] uapi: Add some missing dynamic table-related definitions to elf.h Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-14 18:16 ` [RFC 2/2] [NOT READY] x86/vdso: Add __vdso_findsym Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-14 21:30 ` [RFC 0/2] __vdso_findsym Rich Felker
2014-06-14 22:38   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-14 23:36     ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-15  3:59       ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-15  6:49         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-15 14:25 ` Mikael Pettersson
2014-06-15 14:35   ` Rich Felker
2014-06-15 15:47     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-15 17:05     ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-15 17:40       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-15 17:57         ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-15 18:20           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-15 18:39             ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-15 18:54               ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-15 19:14                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-15 19:22                   ` Ian Lance Taylor
2014-06-15 19:31                     ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2014-06-15 19:50                       ` Ian Lance Taylor
2014-06-15 19:56                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-15 20:53                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-15 21:13                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-16  0:55                   ` Rich Felker
2014-06-16  2:36             ` Andi Kleen
2014-06-16  3:49               ` Rich Felker
2014-06-16 14:08               ` Ian Lance Taylor
2014-06-16 14:38                 ` Andi Kleen
2014-06-16 14:58                   ` Rich Felker
2014-06-16 15:31                   ` Ian Lance Taylor
2014-06-16 15:42                     ` Rich Felker
2014-06-20 15:55                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-20 16:07                         ` Rich Felker
2014-06-16 14:56                 ` Rich Felker
2014-06-15 18:20         ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-15 18:22           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-16  6:39             ` Rich Felker
2014-06-16  1:06       ` Rich Felker

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