From: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>
To: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>
Cc: Fenghua Yu <fenghuay@nvidia.com>,
Maciej Wieczor-Retman <maciej.wieczor-retman@intel.com>,
Peter Newman <peternewman@google.com>,
James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
Babu Moger <babu.moger@amd.com>,
"Drew Fustini" <dfustini@baylibre.com>,
Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>, Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@intel.com>,
<x86@kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
<patches@lists.linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 17/31] x86/resctrl: Find and enable usable telemetry events
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2025 14:33:49 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9a6f5016-0997-47ef-b7d9-2dc4c578e345@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aOQfevoOYWsftGG-@agluck-desk3>
Hi Tony,
On 10/6/25 12:58 PM, Luck, Tony wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 03, 2025 at 04:52:01PM -0700, Reinette Chatre wrote:
>> On 9/25/25 1:03 PM, Tony Luck wrote:
>>> @@ -114,12 +116,44 @@ static struct event_group *known_perf_event_groups[] = {
>>> for (_peg = (_grp); _peg < &_grp[ARRAY_SIZE(_grp)]; _peg++) \
>>> if ((*_peg)->pfg)
>>>
>>> -/* Stub for now */
>>> -static bool enable_events(struct event_group *e, struct pmt_feature_group *p)
>>> +static bool skip_telem_region(struct telemetry_region *tr, struct event_group *e)
>>> {
>>> + if (tr->guid != e->guid)
>>> + return true;
>>> + if (tr->plat_info.package_id >= topology_max_packages()) {
>>> + pr_warn("Bad package %u in guid 0x%x\n", tr->plat_info.package_id,
>>> + tr->guid);
>>> + return true;
>>> + }
>>
>> I have not encountered any mention of the possibility that packages may differ
>> in which telemetry region types they support. For example, could it be possible for package
>> A to have usable regions of the PERF type but package B doesn't? From what I can tell
>> INTEL_PMT_TELEMETRY supports layouts where this can be possible. If I understand correctly
>> this implementation will create event files for these domains but when the user attempts to
>> read the data it will fail. Can this work add some snippet about possibility of this
>> scenario and if/how it is supported?
>
> Yes, this is architecturally possible. But I do not expect that systems will
> be built that do this. You are right that such a system will create files that
> always return "Unavailable" when read.
>
> Is it sufficient to document this in the commit message?
>
> I don't feel that it would be worthwhile to suppress creation of these files for
> a "can't happen" situation. I'm not sure that doing so would be significantly
> better from a user interface perspective. Users would get slightly more notice
> (-ENOENT when trying to open the file). But the code would require
> architecture calls from file system code to check which files need to be created
> separately for each domain.
I think it is sufficient to document this in the commit message to help create
confidence in robustness in support of different scenarios. I have not encountered such
a system but could this scenario be similar to one where a two socket system supports MBM
but only one socket has memory populated? I do not know what reading the counter MSR will
return in this case though.
>
>>
>>> + if (tr->size != e->mmio_size) {
>>> + pr_warn("MMIO space wrong size (%zu bytes) for guid 0x%x. Expected %zu bytes.\n",
>>> + tr->size, e->guid, e->mmio_size);
>>> + return true;
>>> + }
>>> +
>>> return false;
>>> }
>>>
>>> +static bool enable_events(struct event_group *e, struct pmt_feature_group *p)
>>> +{
>>> + bool usable_events = false;
>>> +
>>> + for (int i = 0; i < p->count; i++) {
>>> + if (skip_telem_region(&p->regions[i], e))
>>> + continue;
>>> + usable_events = true;
>>
>> A previous concern [1] was why this loop does not break out at this point. I think it will
>> help to make this clear if marking a telemetry region as unusable (mark_telem_region_unusable())
>> is done in this patch. Doing so makes the "usable" and "unusable" distinction in one
>> patch while making clear that the loop needs to complete.
>
> Ok. I'll pull mark_telem_region_unusable() into this patch.
Thank you.
Reinette
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-06 21:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-25 20:02 [PATCH v11 00/31] x86,fs/resctrl telemetry monitoring Tony Luck
2025-09-25 20:02 ` [PATCH v11 01/31] x86,fs/resctrl: Improve domain type checking Tony Luck
2025-10-03 15:28 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-09-25 20:02 ` [PATCH v11 02/31] x86/resctrl: Move L3 initialization into new helper function Tony Luck
2025-10-03 15:28 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-09-25 20:02 ` [PATCH v11 03/31] x86,fs/resctrl: Refactor domain_remove_cpu_mon() ready for new domain types Tony Luck
2025-10-03 15:29 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-09-25 20:02 ` [PATCH v11 04/31] x86/resctrl: Clean up domain_remove_cpu_ctrl() Tony Luck
2025-10-03 15:30 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-09-25 20:02 ` [PATCH v11 05/31] x86,fs/resctrl: Refactor domain create/remove using struct rdt_domain_hdr Tony Luck
2025-10-03 15:33 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-03 22:55 ` Luck, Tony
2025-10-06 21:32 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 06/31] x86,fs/resctrl: Use struct rdt_domain_hdr when reading counters Tony Luck
2025-10-03 15:34 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-03 22:59 ` Luck, Tony
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 07/31] x86,fs/resctrl: Rename struct rdt_mon_domain and rdt_hw_mon_domain Tony Luck
2025-10-03 23:24 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 08/31] x86,fs/resctrl: Rename some L3 specific functions Tony Luck
2025-10-03 23:24 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 09/31] fs/resctrl: Make event details accessible to functions when reading events Tony Luck
2025-10-03 23:27 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 10/31] x86,fs/resctrl: Handle events that can be read from any CPU Tony Luck
2025-10-03 23:32 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 11/31] x86,fs/resctrl: Support binary fixed point event counters Tony Luck
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 12/31] x86,fs/resctrl: Add an architectural hook called for each mount Tony Luck
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 13/31] x86,fs/resctrl: Add and initialize rdt_resource for package scope monitor Tony Luck
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 14/31] x86/resctrl: Discover hardware telemetry events Tony Luck
2025-10-03 23:35 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-06 18:19 ` Luck, Tony
2025-10-06 21:33 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-06 21:47 ` Luck, Tony
2025-10-07 20:47 ` Luck, Tony
2025-10-08 17:12 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-08 17:20 ` Luck, Tony
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 15/31] x86,fs/resctrl: Fill in details of events for guid 0x26696143 and 0x26557651 Tony Luck
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 16/31] x86,fs/resctrl: Add architectural event pointer Tony Luck
2025-10-03 23:38 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 17/31] x86/resctrl: Find and enable usable telemetry events Tony Luck
2025-10-03 23:52 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-06 19:58 ` Luck, Tony
2025-10-06 21:33 ` Reinette Chatre [this message]
2025-10-06 21:54 ` Luck, Tony
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 18/31] fs/resctrl: Refactor L3 specific parts of __mon_event_count() Tony Luck
2025-10-03 23:56 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 19/31] x86/resctrl: Read telemetry events Tony Luck
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 20/31] fs/resctrl: Refactor Sub-NUMA Cluster (SNC) in mkdir/rmdir code flow Tony Luck
2025-10-03 23:58 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-06 23:10 ` Luck, Tony
2025-10-08 17:12 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-08 21:15 ` Luck, Tony
2025-10-08 22:12 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-08 22:29 ` Luck, Tony
2025-10-09 2:16 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-09 17:45 ` Luck, Tony
2025-10-09 20:29 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-09 21:31 ` Luck, Tony
2025-10-09 21:46 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-09 22:08 ` Luck, Tony
2025-10-10 0:16 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-10 1:14 ` Luck, Tony
2025-10-10 1:54 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 21/31] x86/resctrl: Handle domain creation/deletion for RDT_RESOURCE_PERF_PKG Tony Luck
2025-10-04 0:00 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 22/31] x86/resctrl: Add energy/perf choices to rdt boot option Tony Luck
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 23/31] x86/resctrl: Handle number of RMIDs supported by telemetry resources Tony Luck
2025-10-04 0:06 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 24/31] fs/resctrl: Move allocation/free of closid_num_dirty_rmid[] Tony Luck
2025-10-04 0:09 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 25/31] fs,x86/resctrl: Compute number of RMIDs as minimum across resources Tony Luck
2025-10-04 0:10 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 26/31] fs/resctrl: Move RMID initialization to first mount Tony Luck
2025-10-04 0:12 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 27/31] x86/resctrl: Enable RDT_RESOURCE_PERF_PKG Tony Luck
2025-10-04 0:23 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 28/31] fs/resctrl: Provide interface to create architecture specific debugfs area Tony Luck
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 29/31] x86/resctrl: Add debugfs files to show telemetry aggregator status Tony Luck
2025-10-04 0:23 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 30/31] x86,fs/resctrl: Update Documentation for package events Tony Luck
2025-10-04 0:25 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-09-25 20:03 ` [PATCH v11 31/31] fs/resctrl: Some kerneldoc updates Tony Luck
2025-10-04 0:26 ` Reinette Chatre
2025-10-06 16:54 ` Luck, Tony
2025-10-06 21:34 ` Reinette Chatre
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