From: Nikolay Aleksandrov <nikolay@nvidia.com>
To: "davem@davemloft.net" <davem@davemloft.net>,
"geert@linux-m68k.org" <geert@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: "andrew@lunn.ch" <andrew@lunn.ch>,
"bridge@lists.linux-foundation.org"
<bridge@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
"hkallweit1@gmail.com" <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"kuba@kernel.org" <kuba@kernel.org>,
"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
"yoshihiro.shimoda.uh@renesas.com"
<yoshihiro.shimoda.uh@renesas.com>,
"gaku.inami.xh@renesas.com" <gaku.inami.xh@renesas.com>,
Roopa Prabhu <roopa@nvidia.com>,
"f.fainelli@gmail.com" <f.fainelli@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Revert "net: linkwatch: add check for netdevice being present to linkwatch_do_dev"
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2020 12:35:02 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9ab2973de2c0fb32de7fbc4ae823a820cd48a769.camel@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMuHMdXGmKYKWtkFCV0WmYnY4Gn--Bbz-iSX76oc-UNNrzCMuw@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, 2020-09-14 at 09:40 +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> Hi David,
>
> CC bridge
>
> On Sun, Sep 13, 2020 at 3:34 AM David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> wrote:
> > From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
> > Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2020 14:33:59 +0200
> >
> > > "dev" is not the bridge device, but the physical Ethernet interface, which
> > > may already be suspended during s2ram.
> >
> > Hmmm, ok.
> >
> > Looking more deeply NETDEV_CHANGE causes br_port_carrier_check() to run which
> > exits early if netif_running() is false, which is going to be true if
> > netif_device_present() is false:
> >
> > *notified = false;
> > if (!netif_running(br->dev))
> > return;
> >
> > The only other work the bridge notifier does is:
> >
> > if (event != NETDEV_UNREGISTER)
> > br_vlan_port_event(p, event);
> >
> > and:
> >
> > /* Events that may cause spanning tree to refresh */
> > if (!notified && (event == NETDEV_CHANGEADDR || event == NETDEV_UP ||
> > event == NETDEV_CHANGE || event == NETDEV_DOWN))
> > br_ifinfo_notify(RTM_NEWLINK, NULL, p);
> >
> > So some vlan stuff, and emitting a netlink message to any available
> > listeners.
> >
> > Should we really do all of this for a device which is not even
> > present?
> >
> > This whole situation seems completely illogical. The device is
> > useless, it logically has no link or other state that can be managed
> > or used, while it is not present.
> >
> > So all of these bridge operations should only happen when the device
> > transitions back to present again.
>
> Thanks for your analysis!
> I'd like to defer this to the bridge people (CC).
>
> Gr{oetje,eeting}s,
>
> Geert
>
Hi,
Sorry for the delay. Interesting problem. :)
Thanks for the analysis, I don't see any issues with checking if the device
isn't present. It will have to go through some testing, but no obvious
objections/issues. Have you tried if it fixes your case?
I have briefly gone over drivers' use of net_device_detach(), mostly it's used
for suspends, but there are a few cases which use it on IO error or when a
device is actually detaching (VF detach). The vlan port event is for vlan
devices on top of the bridge when BROPT_VLAN_BRIDGE_BINDING is enabled and their
carrier is changed based on vlan participating ports' state.
Thanks,
Nik
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-09-18 12:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-09-01 15:02 Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-09-03 21:58 ` David Miller
2020-09-10 19:20 ` David Miller
2020-09-11 6:32 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-09-12 0:44 ` David Miller
2020-09-12 12:33 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-09-13 1:34 ` David Miller
2020-09-14 7:40 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-09-18 12:35 ` Nikolay Aleksandrov [this message]
2020-09-18 21:47 ` David Miller
2020-09-18 17:58 ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-09-18 22:10 ` David Miller
2020-09-23 11:49 ` Heiner Kallweit
2020-09-23 18:35 ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-09-23 19:58 ` Heiner Kallweit
2020-09-23 20:15 ` David Miller
2020-09-23 20:44 ` Heiner Kallweit
2020-09-23 22:42 ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-09-24 0:21 ` David Miller
2020-09-24 0:23 ` David Miller
2020-09-24 5:49 ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-09-24 16:03 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-09-24 18:16 ` Saeed Mahameed
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