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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: tglx@kernel.org, mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de,
	Nathan Chancellor <nathan@kernel.org>,
	Calvin Owens <calvin@wbinvd.org>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	x86-ML <x86@kernel.org>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: 8aeb879baf12 - significant system call latency regression, bisected
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2026 15:40:00 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9ae04c80-d1e2-44f0-bca2-d0889c61b45f@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260617123718.GM49951@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On 2026-06-17 05:37, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> 
> This builds with kcfi on and seems to do more or less do what is expected.
> 
> I've not actually tried performance measurements on my IDT based system.
> 

I'm going to run this through its paces.

I'm still confused, though, by the claim that changing the
patchable_function_entry() breaks the kCFI ABI. When I do a symbol check on my
system, the __pfx symbols are still at an offset of -16, and the additional
NOPs are located *before* them. Isn't this completely consistent with the
existing ABI? What am I missing here?

That being said, I like the idea of entry points being noendbr: they are very
high value targets and making them even a little bit harder to access I think
is a very good thing.

As far as getting the compiler people to address this: this very clearly would
have to be something explicitly opted in; e.g by adding a third (alignment)
argument to the patchable_function_entry attribute and option.

> Obviously this would want splitting into a few patches, but it does:
> 
>  - makes -fno-jump-tables unconditional
>  - removes array_index_nospec() from the syscall dispatch
>  - makes x{32,64}_sys_call() 'static noinstr'

Note: I have found that merging x32_sys_call() into x64_sys_call() generates
considerably better code, because both gcc and clang will re-use x64
sub-branches for the x32 code. Specifically, the way to make it generate good
code is to explicitly remove the x32 bit before a second switch (merging the
two switch statements will *not* give good code; neither compiler isn't clever
enough to detect the common-but-offset code branches.)

>  - adds align_entry attribute that aligns on cacheline boundaries
>    and disallows taking address
>  - sprinkles align_entry on the noinstr syscall path

	-hpa


  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-18 22:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-13  1:45 "H. Peter Anvin" (Intel)
2026-06-13  8:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-06-13 20:34   ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-06-13 23:52     ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-06-14  1:50       ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-06-14 18:08         ` Xin Li
2026-06-14 18:31           ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-06-15  0:19         ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-06-15  2:07           ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-06-15  3:41             ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-15 18:30               ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-06-16  7:12                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-06-16  7:38             ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-06-16  7:53             ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-06-18 23:05               ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-06-19  7:50                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-06-19 10:22                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-06-16  8:28         ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-06-16  8:46           ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-16  9:51             ` Ingo Molnar
2026-06-16 17:44               ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-06-17  9:54                 ` Ingo Molnar
2026-06-17 10:05                   ` Ingo Molnar
2026-06-17 12:37             ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-06-18 22:40               ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2026-06-19  1:11                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-06-19  2:08                   ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-19  2:11                     ` Linus Torvalds
2026-06-19  4:32                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-06-19  7:35                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-06-19  2:11                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-06-19  7:31                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-06-19  8:14               ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-06-19 10:23                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-06-19 11:18                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-06-19 21:53                     ` syscall path improvements (was: syscall performance regression, debunked) H. Peter Anvin
2026-06-16 13:53           ` 8aeb879baf12 - significant system call latency regression, bisected David Laight
2026-06-18 23:03             ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-06-14  2:11       ` Calvin Owens
2026-06-14  2:14         ` Calvin Owens

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