From: Maxim Levitsky <mlevitsk@redhat.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
x86@kernel.org, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] KVM: VMX: disable preemption when touching segment fields
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2024 13:37:39 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9b4d5563d8ad04f30ee24d4aaa495f787bdef71d.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f183d215c903d4d1e85bf89e9d8b57dd6ce5c175.camel@redhat.com>
On Thu, 2024-07-25 at 08:59 -0400, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
> On Tue, 2024-07-16 at 15:36 -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 15, 2024, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
> > > VMX code uses segment cache to avoid reading guest segment fields.
> > >
> > > The cache is reset each time a segment's field (e.g base/access rights/etc)
> > > is written, and then a new value of this field is written.
> > >
> > > However if the vCPU is preempted between these two events, and this
> > > segment field is read (e.g kvm reads SS's access rights to check
> > > if the vCPU is in kernel mode), then old field value will get
> > > cached and never updated.
> >
> > It'be super helpful to include the gory details about how kvm_arch_vcpu_put()
> > reads stale data. Without that information, it's very hard to figure out how
> > getting preempted is problematic.
>
> I will do this in next version of this patch.
>
> > vmx_vcpu_reset resets the segment cache bitmask and then initializes
> > the segments in the vmcs, however if the vcpus is preempted in the
> > middle of this code, the kvm_arch_vcpu_put is called which
> > reads SS's AR bytes to determine if the vCPU is in the kernel mode,
> > which caches the old value.
> >
> > > Usually a lock is required to avoid such race but since vCPU segments
> > > are only accessed by its vCPU thread, we can avoid a lock and
> > > only disable preemption, in places where the segment cache
> > > is invalidated and segment fields are updated.
> >
> > This doesn't fully fix the problem. It's not just kvm_sched_out() => kvm_arch_vcpu_put()
> > that's problematic, it's any path that executes KVM code in interrupt context.
> > And it's not just limited to segment registers, any register that is conditionally
> > cached via arch.regs_avail is susceptible to races.
> >
> > Specifically, kvm_guest_state() and kvm_guest_get_ip() will read SS.AR_bytes and
> > RIP in NMI and/or IRQ context when handling a PMI.
> > A few possible ideas.
> >
> > 1. Force reads from IRQ/NMI context to skip the cache and go to the VMCS.
>
> This IMHO is the best solution. For segment cache its easy to do, the code
> will be contained in vmx_read_guest_seg_* functions.
>
> For other VMX registers, this can be lot of work due to the way the code is scattered
> around. Still probably double.
>
>
> > 2. Same thing as #1, but focus it specifically on kvm_arch_vcpu_in_kernel()
> > and kvm_arch_vcpu_get_ip(), and WARN if kvm_register_is_available() or
> > vmx_segment_cache_test_set() is invoked from IRQ or NMI context.
>
> I agree on this, this is actually one of the suggestions I had originally.
> ( I didn't notice the kvm_arch_vcpu_get_ip though )
>
> I think I will implement this suggestion.
>
> > 3. Force caching of SS.AR_bytes, CS.AR_bytes, and RIP prior to kvm_after_interrupt(),
> > rename preempted_in_kernel to something like "exited_in_kernel" and snapshot
> > it before kvm_after_interrupt(), and add the same hardening as #2.
> >
> > This is doable because kvm_guest_state() should never read guest state for
> > PMIs that occur between VM-Exit and kvm_after_interrupt(), nor should KVM
> > write guest state in that window. And the intent of the "preempted in kernel"
> > check is to query vCPU state at the time of exit.
> >
> > 5. Do a combination of #3 and patch 02 (#3 fixes PMIs, patch 02 fixes preemption).
> > My vote is probably for #2 or #4.
> #4 causes a NULL pointer deference here :)
>
> > I definitely think we need WARNs in the caching
> > code, and in general kvm_arch_vcpu_put() shouldn't be reading cacheable state, i.e.
> > I am fairly confident we can restrict it to checking CPL.
> >
> > I don't hate this patch by any means, but I don't love disabling preemption in a
> > bunch of flows just so that the preempted_in_kernel logic works.
> >
>
> Thanks for the suggestions!
Hi,
I decided to keep it simple. I'll send a patch which moves call to the vmx_segment_cache_clear
to be after we done with the segment initialization in vmx_vcpu_reset, and later I
write a refactoring/hardening to make sure that we don't read the cache
from the interrupt context.
Best regards,
Maxim Levitsky
>
> Best regards,
> Maxim Levitsky
>
>
>
prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-07-25 17:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-07-16 2:20 [PATCH v2 0/2] Fix for a very old KVM bug in the segment cache Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-16 2:20 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] KVM: nVMX: use vmx_segment_cache_clear Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-16 21:07 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-24 18:18 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-16 2:20 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] KVM: VMX: disable preemption when touching segment fields Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-16 22:36 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-07-25 12:59 ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-07-25 17:37 ` Maxim Levitsky [this message]
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