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From: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
To: Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>, Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Yin Fengwei <fengwei.yin@intel.com>,
	Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>,
	"Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	Nathan Chancellor <nathan@kernel.org>,
	Alexander Gordeev <agordeev@linux.ibm.com>,
	Gerald Schaefer <gerald.schaefer@linux.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] mm: Batch-zap large anonymous folio PTE mappings
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2023 10:16:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9b54e5af-af1a-6741-424b-6c667d0b405b@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOUHufYiEwYw0sFGK0kP0FFRfV51=hVJ==e5R_hXZXQo-OEcwQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 27/07/2023 18:22, Yu Zhao wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 8:18 AM Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com> wrote:
>>
>> This allows batching the rmap removal with folio_remove_rmap_range(),
>> which means we avoid spuriously adding a partially unmapped folio to the
>> deferred split queue in the common case, which reduces split queue lock
>> contention.
>>
>> Previously each page was removed from the rmap individually with
>> page_remove_rmap(). If the first page belonged to a large folio, this
>> would cause page_remove_rmap() to conclude that the folio was now
>> partially mapped and add the folio to the deferred split queue. But
>> subsequent calls would cause the folio to become fully unmapped, meaning
>> there is no value to adding it to the split queue.
>>
>> A complicating factor is that for platforms where MMU_GATHER_NO_GATHER
>> is enabled (e.g. s390), __tlb_remove_page() drops a reference to the
>> page. This means that the folio reference count could drop to zero while
>> still in use (i.e. before folio_remove_rmap_range() is called). This
>> does not happen on other platforms because the actual page freeing is
>> deferred.
>>
>> Solve this by appropriately getting/putting the folio to guarrantee it
>> does not get freed early. Given the need to get/put the folio in the
>> batch path, we stick to the non-batched path if the folio is not large.
>> While the batched path is functionally correct for a folio with 1 page,
>> it is unlikely to be as efficient as the existing non-batched path in
>> this case.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
> 
> This ad hoc patch looks unacceptable to me: we can't afford to keep
> adding special cases.
> 
> I vote for completely converting zap_pte_range() to use
> folio_remove_rmap_range(), and that includes tlb_flush_rmap_batch()
> and other types of large folios, not just anon. 

The intent of the change is to avoid the deferred split queue lock contention,
and this is only a problem for anon folios; page cache folios are never split in
this way. My intention was to do the smallest change to solve the problem. I
don't see the value in reworking a much bigger piece of the code, making it more
complex, when its not going to give any clear perf benefits.


Otherwise I'll leave
> it to Matthew and David.

If there is concensus that this is _required_ in order to merge this series,
then I guess I'll bite the bullet and do it. But my preference is to leave it
for if/when a reason is found that it is actually bringing benefit.


  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-28  9:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-27 14:18 [PATCH v4 0/3] Optimize large folio interaction with deferred split Ryan Roberts
2023-07-27 14:18 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] mm: Allow deferred splitting of arbitrary large anon folios Ryan Roberts
2023-07-27 14:18 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] mm: Implement folio_remove_rmap_range() Ryan Roberts
2023-07-27 14:18 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] mm: Batch-zap large anonymous folio PTE mappings Ryan Roberts
2023-07-27 17:22   ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-28  9:16     ` Ryan Roberts [this message]
2023-08-01  7:12       ` Yu Zhao
2023-08-03 13:57     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-03 13:38   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-03 13:50     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-03 13:56     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-03 14:10       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-03 14:15         ` Ryan Roberts
2023-08-03 14:21           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-08-03 14:28           ` Zi Yan
2023-08-02 16:42 ` [PATCH v4 0/3] Optimize large folio interaction with deferred split Ryan Roberts
2023-08-02 17:02   ` Yu Zhao
2023-08-03 12:01   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2023-08-03 12:48     ` Ryan Roberts

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