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From: Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: Vivien Didelot <vivien.didelot@savoirfairelinux.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel@savoirfairelinux.com,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 10/11] net: dsa: mv88e6xxx: remove EEE support
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 11:53:14 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9b9b2268-7409-fa37-f26f-3206a450c94a@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170801172757.GL23157@lunn.ch>

On 08/01/2017 10:27 AM, Andrew Lunn wrote:
>> If the MAC does not support EEE but the PHY does I think you can still
>> allow EEE to be advertised and enabled, you just won't have the MAC be
>> able to leverage the power savings that EEE brings. AFAICT this is still
>> a valid mode whereby the PHY is put in a lower power mode, just not the
>> whole transmit path (MAC + PHY).
> 
> Hi Florian
> 
> I read a couple of datasheets for a few phys doing EEE. Both said the
> same, the MAC has to indicate to the PHY when low power should be
> entered and existed. The PHY itself does not appear to do anything on
> its own.

Oh you are right, the LPI signal has to come from the MAC for the PHY to
decide how to do the idle signaling, my bad.

> 
> It would be good to read the standards about this. But i don't think
> we should tell userspace EEE is enabled, if the PHY has it enabled,
> but the MAC is not capable and hence EEE is not actually being used at
> all.
-- 
Florian

  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-01 18:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-31 22:17 [PATCH net-next 00/11] net: dsa: rework " Vivien Didelot
2017-07-31 22:17 ` [PATCH net-next 01/11] net: dsa: make EEE ops optional Vivien Didelot
2017-08-01 14:07   ` Andrew Lunn
2017-07-31 22:17 ` [PATCH net-next 02/11] net: dsa: qca8k: fix EEE init Vivien Didelot
2017-07-31 22:17 ` [PATCH net-next 03/11] net: dsa: qca8k: enable EEE once Vivien Didelot
2017-07-31 22:17 ` [PATCH net-next 04/11] net: dsa: qca8k: do not cache unneeded EEE fields Vivien Didelot
2017-07-31 22:17 ` [PATCH net-next 05/11] net: dsa: qca8k: remove qca8k_get_eee Vivien Didelot
2017-07-31 22:17 ` [PATCH net-next 06/11] net: dsa: bcm_sf2: remove unneeded supported flags Vivien Didelot
2017-07-31 22:17 ` [PATCH net-next 07/11] net: dsa: mv88e6xxx: call phy_init_eee Vivien Didelot
2017-07-31 22:17 ` [PATCH net-next 08/11] net: dsa: call phy_init_eee in DSA layer Vivien Didelot
2017-07-31 22:17 ` [PATCH net-next 09/11] net: dsa: remove PHY device argument from .set_eee Vivien Didelot
2017-07-31 22:17 ` [PATCH net-next 10/11] net: dsa: mv88e6xxx: remove EEE support Vivien Didelot
2017-08-01 14:28   ` Andrew Lunn
2017-08-01 15:36     ` Vivien Didelot
2017-08-01 16:06       ` Andrew Lunn
2017-08-01 16:33         ` Florian Fainelli
2017-08-01 17:27           ` Andrew Lunn
2017-08-01 18:53             ` Florian Fainelli [this message]
2017-08-01 16:34         ` Vivien Didelot
2017-08-01 20:08           ` Vivien Didelot
2017-07-31 22:17 ` [PATCH net-next 11/11] net: dsa: rename switch EEE ops Vivien Didelot
2017-08-01 14:31 ` [PATCH net-next 00/11] net: dsa: rework EEE support Andrew Lunn

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