From: Alexey Budankov <alexey.budankov@linux.intel.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>
Cc: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 0/3]: perf: reduce data loss when profiling highly parallel CPU bound workloads
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 11:27:24 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9ba76110-ea81-2d0d-ba49-68ac1104c10e@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180911141907.GV24106@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>
Hi,
On 11.09.2018 17:19, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 08:35:12AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>>> Well, explicit threading in the tool for AIO, in the simplest case, means
>>> incorporating some POSIX API implementation into the tool, avoiding
>>> code reuse in the first place. That tends to be error prone and costly.
>>
>> It's a core competency, we better do it right and not outsource it.
>>
>> Please take a look at Jiri's patches (once he re-posts them), I think it's a very good
>> starting point.
>
> There's another reason for doing custom per-cpu threads; it avoids
> bouncing the buffer memory around the machine. If the task doing the
> buffer reads is the exact same as the one doing the writes, there's less
> memory traffic on the interconnects.
Yeah, NUMA does matter. Memory locality, i.e. cache sizes and NUMA domains
for kernel/user buffers allocation, needs to be taken into account by the
effective solution. Luckily data losses hasn't been observed when testing
matrix multiplication on 96 core dual socket machines.
>
> Also, I think we can avoid the MFENCE in that case, but I'm not sure
> that one is hot enough to bother about on the perf reading side of
> things.
Yep, *FENCE may be costly in HW, especially on larger scale.
>
Thanks,
Alexey
prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-09-12 8:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-09-07 7:07 Alexey Budankov
2018-09-07 7:11 ` [PATCH v8 1/3]: perf util: map data buffer for preserving collected data Alexey Budankov
2018-09-07 7:19 ` [PATCH v8 2/3]: perf record: enable asynchronous trace writing Alexey Budankov
2018-09-07 7:39 ` [PATCH v8 3/3]: perf record: extend trace writing to multi AIO Alexey Budankov
2018-09-07 9:34 ` [PATCH v8 0/3]: perf: reduce data loss when profiling highly parallel CPU bound workloads Alexey Budankov
2018-09-10 9:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-09-10 9:59 ` Jiri Olsa
2018-09-10 10:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-09-10 10:08 ` Jiri Olsa
2018-09-10 10:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-09-10 10:23 ` Jiri Olsa
2018-09-10 10:45 ` Alexey Budankov
2018-09-10 10:40 ` Alexey Budankov
2018-09-10 12:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-09-10 13:58 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2018-09-10 15:19 ` Alexey Budankov
2018-09-10 14:48 ` Alexey Budankov
2018-09-11 6:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-09-11 8:16 ` Alexey Budankov
2018-09-11 8:34 ` Jiri Olsa
2018-09-11 13:42 ` Alexey Budankov
2018-09-13 8:00 ` Jiri Olsa
2018-09-11 14:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-12 8:27 ` Alexey Budankov [this message]
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