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From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Kiryl Shutsemau <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: "Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta)" <kas@kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-team@meta.com, "Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
	Nico Pache <nico.pache@linux.dev>,
	Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>, Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>,
	Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>, Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>,
	Usama Arif <usama.arif@linux.dev>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 09/13] mm/collapse: separate scanning a PTE table from collapsing it
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2026 10:34:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9bf6623e-ad1b-415c-9720-6063a1ac11ea@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260928100630.21870-10-kirill@shutemov.name>

On 9/28/26 12:06, Kiryl Shutsemau wrote:
> From: "Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta)" <kas@kernel.org>
> 
> A collapse is two jobs.  One reads a PTE table under mmap_lock and decides
> whether the range is worth collapsing.  The other allocates, isolates,
> copies and flushes, and wants the lock given up first.
> 
> collapse_single_pmd() did both, so the boundary between them was somewhere
> in the middle of a function.
> 
> Give each half its own function:
> 
>   - collapse_scan_pmd() scans one table.  The anonymous scan that used to
>     carry that name keeps its body as collapse_scan_anon_pmd(), and
>     collapse_scan_pmd() is now the entry that picks the anonymous or the
>     file side.
> 
>   - collapse_run_pmd() does the collapse the scan asked for, and is
>     handed what the scan returned.  SCAN_SUCCEED means there is
>     something to collapse.  SCAN_PTE_MAPPED_HUGEPAGE means the page
>     cache already holds the PMD folio and only the PTE table is left to
>     retract.  Both are work for the run; anything else is why there is
>     nothing to do.

I raised that I don't like the "run" in collapse_run_pmd(). That hasn't changed,
as we are adding more inconsistency.

We do have after your patch set

	collapse_scan_pmd calling
	-> collapse_scan_file
	-> collapse_scan_anon_pmd

Inconsistency: why not simply collapse_scan_anon? Alternatively
collapse_scan_file_pmd, although for this internal helper including the "pmd" is
not particularly helpful.

The we have

	collapse_run_pmd calling
	-> mthp_collapse
	-> collapse_file

Inconsistency: a lot, including the "run" thing.


So I suggest the following in the context of this patch here:

	collapse_scan_pmd
	-> collapse_scan_file
	-> collapse_scan_anon

	collapse_pmd
	-> collapse_anon
	-> collapse_file

(as I previously said, "scanned" could be thrown in there, to make the
expectation clearer, but I don't particularly care about that)

> 
> collapse_single_pmd() is now the two of them with the mmap_lock drop in
> between, so its callers see what they saw before.  collapse_control_init()
> sets a control up before its first scan.

You should mention that collapse_single_pmd() is only temporary.

> 
> What the scan found and the run needs travels in collapse_control.  For
> an anonymous table that is the orders and the referenced and swapped-out
> counts, which mthp_collapse() and collapse_huge_page() now read from
> there instead of taking as arguments.  For a file it is the file itself
> and the offset in it: a file collapse works on the page cache and never
> sees a VMA, so the scan takes the reference while it still has one and
> the run gives it back.
> 
> The file scan moves under mmap_lock with the anonymous one, where before
> the lock was given up first.  The lock is now held over the page cache
> walk, an RCU walk over one table's worth of slots with no PTL, and taken
> fewer times.  collapse_scan_mm_slot() ends its walk whenever the lock was
> dropped, so a refused file table used to cost khugepaged an unlock, a
> trip back through khugepaged_do_scan(), a relock and a VMA lookup.  Now
> only a table that goes on to be collapsed does.

[...]

>  
> +/*
> + * Try to collapse a single PMD starting at a PMD aligned addr, and return
> + * the results.
> + */

I'd just not add that doc if you intend to remove the whole thing in the same
comment.


-- 
Cheers,

David

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-10-01  8:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-28 10:06 [PATCH v4 00/13] mm/collapse: separate a collapse from its callers Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-28 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 01/13] mm/khugepaged: drop redundant mm_struct pin in madvise_collapse() Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-28 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 02/13] mm/khugepaged: count collapses where khugepaged makes them Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-28 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 03/13] mm/khugepaged: rename mthp_present_ptes bitmap to eligible_ptes Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-28 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 04/13] mm/collapse: add collapse.h for the collapse interface Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-28 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 05/13] mm/collapse: state what a collapse may do in the policy Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-28 19:26   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-29  1:32   ` Zi Yan
2026-09-29  8:12   ` Baolin Wang
2026-09-28 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 06/13] mm/collapse: drop the collapse_possible() wrapper Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-28 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 07/13] mm/collapse: name the per-table scan reset for what it resets Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-28 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 08/13] mm/collapse: call collapse_file() from collapse_single_pmd() Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-29  1:41   ` Zi Yan
2026-10-01  8:08   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-28 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 09/13] mm/collapse: separate scanning a PTE table from collapsing it Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-29  1:52   ` Zi Yan
2026-10-01  8:34   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-09-28 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 10/13] mm/collapse: open-code collapse_single_pmd() in its two callers Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-10-01  9:37   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-28 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 11/13] mm/collapse: work out the orders a VMA allows once per VMA Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-28 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 12/13] mm/collapse: declare the collapse interface in collapse.h Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-29  2:02   ` Zi Yan
2026-09-28 10:06 ` [PATCH v4 13/13] mm/collapse: implement MADV_COLLAPSE in madvise.c Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-29  2:03   ` Zi Yan
2026-09-28 21:59 ` [PATCH v4 00/13] mm/collapse: separate a collapse from its callers Andrew Morton

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