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From: "yukuai (C)" <yukuai3@huawei.com>
To: <paulmck@kernel.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: "Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>,
	hch@infradead.org, axboe@kernel.dk, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	yi.zhang@huawei.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 2/2] block: cancel all throttled bios in del_gendisk()
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 09:28:29 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9e318511-b33c-37c6-8ffd-75302280246d@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220107213612.GQ4202@paulmck-ThinkPad-P17-Gen-1>

在 2022/01/08 5:36, Paul E. McKenney 写道:
> On Fri, Jan 07, 2022 at 11:18:47AM -1000, Tejun Heo wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 07, 2022 at 04:05:19PM +0100, Michal Koutný wrote:
>>> On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 04:31:43PM +0800, Yu Kuai <yukuai3@huawei.com> wrote:
>>>> +	 * queue_lock is held, rcu lock is not needed here.
>>>> +	 */
>>>> +	blkg_for_each_descendant_post(blkg, pos_css, td->queue->root_blkg)
>>>> +		tg_drain_bios(&blkg_to_tg(blkg)->service_queue);
>>>
>>> FTR, I acknowledge this can work due to RCU peculiarities, however, I
>>> don't understand why is it preferred against more robust explict
>>> rcu_read_lock().
>>>
>>> (All in all, this isn't a deal breaker and I'm not confident evaluating
>>> the rest of the patch.)
>>
>> Cc'ing Paul for RCU. Paul, this nit is around whether or not to use
>> rcu_read_lock() in an irq disabled section. I can see both sides of the
>> arguments - it's weird to put in an extra rcu_read_lock() when technically
>> unnecessary but it's also nice to have something explicit and structured to
>> mark parts which require RCU protection. Putting in a comment is okay but
>> consistency is difficult to achieve that way.
>>
>> Maybe all these are unnecessary as lockdep would be able to catch them
>> anyway, or maybe we'd want something to explicitly mark RCU protected
>> sections. I don't know but whichever way, I think we need to establish a
>> convention.
> 
> The easiest thing to do is to use rcu_dereference_sched() instead of
> rcu_dereference().  This will cause lockdep to insist on preemption
> (for example, interrupts) being disabled.
> 
> Or is this a case where a function containing rcu_dereference() is invoked
> with interrupts disabled from some call sites and under rcu_read_lock()
> protection from other call sites?  In this case, it is usually best to
> include that redundant rcu_read_lock() [1].

Hi,

This is the later case, so I guess I'll include that redundant
rcu_read_lock().

Thanks,
Kuai
> 
> 							Thanx, Paul
> 
> [1]	If you are a glutton for punishment, or if you would otherwise
> 	have to add a cubic goatskin of rcu_read_lock() calls, you
> 	could instead write this priceless gem in place of the calls to
> 	rcu_dereference() in that common function:
> 
> 	p = rcu_dereference_check(ptr, rcu_read_lock_sched_held());
> 
> 	This would cause lockdep to be happy with either rcu_read_lock()
> 	or preemption being disabled.
> 
> 	This is more precise, and would be preferable in some cases,
> 	for example, if there were lots of hotpath callsites with
> 	interrupts disabled.  "Do we add 25 pairs of rcu_read_lock()
> 	and rcu_read_unlock()?	Or do we add just the one ugly
> 	rcu_dereference_check()?"
> .
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-10  1:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-10  8:31 [PATCH v5 0/2] " Yu Kuai
2021-12-10  8:31 ` [PATCH v5 1/2] blk-throtl: move WARN_ON_ONCE() from throtl_rb_first() to it's caller Yu Kuai
2021-12-10  8:31 ` [PATCH v5 2/2] block: cancel all throttled bios in del_gendisk() Yu Kuai
2022-01-07 15:05   ` Michal Koutný
2022-01-07 21:18     ` Tejun Heo
2022-01-07 21:36       ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-01-10  1:28         ` yukuai (C) [this message]
2021-12-18  9:09 ` [PATCH v5 0/2] " yukuai (C)
2022-01-07  1:08   ` yukuai (C)

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