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From: "Liang, Kan" <kan.liang@linux.intel.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: acme@kernel.org, mingo@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	tglx@linutronix.de, jolsa@kernel.org, eranian@google.com,
	alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com, ak@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [RESEND PATCH V3 3/8] perf/x86/intel: Support hardware TopDown metrics
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 15:35:02 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9e5f9292-9767-d17a-2223-37dff9e759c7@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190828150238.GC17205@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net>



On 8/28/2019 11:02 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>> Reset
>> ======
>>
>> The PERF_METRICS and Fixed counter 3 have to be reset for each read,
>> because:
>> - The 8bit metrics ratio values lose precision when the measurement
>>    period gets longer.
> So it musn't be too hot,
> 
>> - The PERF_METRICS may report wrong value if its delta was less than
>>    1/255 of SLOTS (Fixed counter 3).

The "delta" is actually for the internal counters. Sorry for the
confusion.

> it also musn't be too cold. But that leaves it unspecified what exactly
> is the right range.
> 
> IOW, you want a Goldilocks number of SLOTS.
> 
>> Also, for counting, the -max_period is the initial value of the SLOTS.
>> The huge initial value will definitely trigger the issue mentioned
>> above. Force initial value as 0 for topdown and slots event counting.
> But you just told us that 0 is wrong too (too cold).

We set -max_period (0x8000 0000 0001) as initial value of FIXCTR3 for 
counting. But the internal counters probably starts counting from 0.
PERF_METRICS is fraction of internal counters / FIXCTR3.
So PERF_METRICS will never works.
We have to make FIXCTR3 count from 0 as well.

Thanks,
Kan

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-08-28 19:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-26 14:47 [RESEND PATCH V3 0/8] TopDown metrics support for Icelake kan.liang
2019-08-26 14:47 ` [RESEND PATCH V3 1/8] perf/x86/intel: Set correct mask for TOPDOWN.SLOTS kan.liang
2019-08-28  7:48   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-26 14:47 ` [RESEND PATCH V3 2/8] perf/x86/intel: Basic support for metrics counters kan.liang
2019-08-28  7:48   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-28  7:52   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-28 13:59     ` Liang, Kan
2019-08-28  8:44   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-28  9:02     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-28  9:37       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-28 13:51       ` Liang, Kan
2019-08-28  8:52   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-26 14:47 ` [RESEND PATCH V3 3/8] perf/x86/intel: Support hardware TopDown metrics kan.liang
2019-08-28 15:02   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-28 19:04     ` Andi Kleen
2019-08-31  9:19       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-09 13:40         ` Liang, Kan
2019-08-28 19:35     ` Liang, Kan [this message]
2019-08-28 15:19   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-28 16:11     ` [PATCH] x86/math64: Provide a sane mul_u64_u32_div() implementation for x86_64 Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-29  9:30       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-28 16:17     ` [RESEND PATCH V3 3/8] perf/x86/intel: Support hardware TopDown metrics Andi Kleen
2019-08-28 16:28       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-29  3:11         ` Andi Kleen
2019-08-29  9:17           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-29 13:31     ` Liang, Kan
2019-08-29 13:52       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-29 16:56         ` Liang, Kan
2019-08-31  9:18           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-30 23:18   ` Stephane Eranian
2019-08-31  0:31     ` Andi Kleen
2019-08-31  9:13       ` Stephane Eranian
2019-08-31  9:29         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-31 17:53         ` Andi Kleen
2019-08-26 14:47 ` [RESEND PATCH V3 4/8] perf/x86/intel: Support per thread RDPMC " kan.liang
2019-08-26 14:47 ` [RESEND PATCH V3 5/8] perf/x86/intel: Export TopDown events for Icelake kan.liang
2019-08-26 14:47 ` [RESEND PATCH V3 6/8] perf/x86/intel: Disable sampling read slots and topdown kan.liang
2019-08-26 14:47 ` [RESEND PATCH V3 7/8] perf, tools, stat: Support new per thread TopDown metrics kan.liang
2019-08-26 14:47 ` [RESEND PATCH V3 8/8] perf, tools: Add documentation for topdown metrics kan.liang

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