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From: Waiman Long <llong@redhat.com>
To: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>, Waiman Long <llong@redhat.com>
Cc: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	aeh@meta.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, jhs@mojatatu.com, kernel-team@meta.com,
	Erik Lundgren <elundgren@meta.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] lockdep: Speed up lockdep_unregister_key() with expedited RCU synchronization
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2025 13:33:22 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9f5b500a-1106-4565-9559-bd44143e3ea6@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z-rQNzYRMTinrDSl@boqun-archlinux>

On 3/31/25 1:26 PM, Boqun Feng wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 11:39:49AM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
> [...]
>>>> Anyway, that may work. The only problem that I see is the issue of nesting
>>>> of an interrupt context on top of a task context. It is possible that the
>>>> first use of a raw_spinlock may happen in an interrupt context. If the
>>>> interrupt happens when the task has set the hazard pointer and iterating the
>>>> hash list, the value of the hazard pointer may be overwritten. Alternatively
>>>> we could have multiple slots for the hazard pointer, but that will make the
>>>> code more complicated. Or we could disable interrupt before setting the
>>>> hazard pointer.
>>> Or we can use lockdep_recursion:
>>>
>>> 	preempt_disable();
>>> 	lockdep_recursion_inc();
>>> 	barrier();
>>>
>>> 	WRITE_ONCE(*hazptr, ...);
>>>
>>> , it should prevent the re-entrant of lockdep in irq.
>> That will probably work. Or we can disable irq. I am fine with both.
> Disabling irq may not work in this case, because an NMI can also happen
> and call register_lock_class().
Right, disabling irq doesn't work with NMI. So incrementing the 
recursion count is likely the way to go and I think it will work even in 
the NMI case.

>
> I'm experimenting a new idea here, it might be better (for general
> cases), and this has the similar spirit that we could move the
> protection scope of a hazard pointer from a key to a hash_list: we can
> introduce a wildcard address, and whenever we do a synchronize_hazptr(),
> if the hazptr slot equal to wildcard, we treat as it matches to any ptr,
> hence synchronize_hazptr() will still wait until it's zero'd. Not only
> this could help in the nesting case, it can also be used if the users
> want to protect multiple things with this simple hazard pointer
> implementation.

I think it is a good idea to add a wildcard for the general use case. 
Setting the hazptr to the list head will be enough for this particular case.

Cheers,
Longman


  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-31 17:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-21  9:30 Breno Leitao
2025-03-21 10:37 ` Eric Dumazet
2025-03-21 14:22   ` Breno Leitao
2025-03-24 12:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-03-24 12:23   ` Eric Dumazet
2025-03-24 12:24     ` Eric Dumazet
2025-03-24 19:21     ` Boqun Feng
2025-03-24 19:30       ` Boqun Feng
2025-03-25  0:47         ` Boqun Feng
2025-03-25  1:56           ` Waiman Long
2025-03-25  3:41             ` Boqun Feng
     [not found]               ` <934d794b-7ebc-422c-b4fe-3e658a2e5e7a@redhat.com>
2025-03-25 14:57                 ` Waiman Long
2025-03-25 18:45                 ` Boqun Feng
2025-03-25 19:23                   ` Waiman Long
2025-03-25 19:42                     ` Boqun Feng
2025-03-25 23:20                       ` Waiman Long
2025-03-26  5:25                         ` Boqun Feng
     [not found]                           ` <df237702-55c3-466b-b51e-f3fe46ae03ba@redhat.com>
2025-03-26 16:40                             ` Waiman Long
2025-03-26 16:47                               ` Boqun Feng
2025-03-26 17:02                                 ` Waiman Long
2025-03-26 17:10                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-03-26 18:42                                     ` Boqun Feng
2025-03-26 21:37                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-03-31 16:48                                       ` Breno Leitao
2025-03-31 17:34                                         ` Boqun Feng
2025-03-31 17:26                             ` Boqun Feng
2025-03-31 17:33                               ` Waiman Long [this message]
2025-03-31 18:33                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-03-31 18:57                                   ` Waiman Long
2025-03-31 21:21                                     ` Boqun Feng
2025-03-31 21:47                                       ` Waiman Long
2025-03-31 17:42                               ` Eric Dumazet
2025-07-09 10:00 ` Breno Leitao
2025-07-09 13:57   ` Waiman Long
2025-07-09 14:57     ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-19 17:40 ` [tip: locking/core] " tip-bot2 for Breno Leitao

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