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From: "Mi, Dapeng" <dapeng1.mi@linux.intel.com>
To: Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Eranian Stephane <eranian@google.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	broonie@kernel.org, Ravi Bangoria <ravi.bangoria@amd.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org,
	Zide Chen <zide.chen@intel.com>,
	Falcon Thomas <thomas.falcon@intel.com>,
	Dapeng Mi <dapeng1.mi@intel.com>,
	Xudong Hao <xudong.hao@intel.com>,
	Kan Liang <kan.liang@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [Patch v5 18/19] perf parse-regs: Support new SIMD sampling format
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2026 14:55:16 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9f73d1f1-80f5-45ed-946f-6a920ba34980@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP-5=fV0iPapwbKX-rjbF86_WcZPji8opKNgO=r_kDSJB7T8XA@mail.gmail.com>


On 1/17/2026 1:50 PM, Ian Rogers wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2026 at 11:27 PM Mi, Dapeng <dapeng1.mi@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>> Ian,
>>
>> I looked at these perf regs __weak helpers again, like
>> arch__intr_reg_mask()/arch__user_reg_mask(). It could be really hard to
>> eliminate these __weak helpers and convert them into a generic function
>> like perf_reg_name(). All these __weak helpers are arch-dependent and
>> usually need to call perf_event_open sysctrl to get the required registers
>> mask. So even we convert them into a generic function, we still have no way
>> to get the registers mask of a different arch, like get x86 registers mask
>> on arm machine. Another reason is that these __weak helpers may contain
>> some arch-specific instructions. If we want to convert them into a general
>> perf function like perf_reg_name(). It may cause building error since these
>> arch-specific instructions may not exist on the building machine.
> Hi Dapeng,
>
> There was already a patch to better support cross architecture
> libdw-unwind-ing and I've just sent out a series to clean this up so
> that this is achieved by having mapping functions between perf and
> dwarf register names. The functions use the e_machine of the binary to
> determine how to map, etc. The series is here:
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20260117052849.2205545-1-irogers@google.com/
> and I think it can be the foundation for avoiding the weak functions.

Hi Ian,

Thanks for the reference patch. But they are different. The reference
patches mainly parse the regs from perf.data and the __weak functions can
be eliminated in the parsing phase since the registers bitmap is fixed for
a fixed arch. While these __weak functions
arch__intr_reg_mask()/arch__user_reg_mask() are used to obtain the support
sampling registers on a specific platform.

We know different platforms even for same arch may support different
registers, e.g., some x86 platforms may only support XMM registers, but
some others may support XMM/YMM/ZMM registers, then all these arch-specific
arch__intr_reg_mask()/arch__user_reg_mask() functions have to depend on the
perf_event_open() syscall to retrieve the supported registers mask from kernel.

Thus, it becomes impossible to retrieve the supported registers mask for a
x86 specific platform from running on a arm platform.

Even we don't consider this limitation and forcibly convert the
__weak arch__intr_reg_mask() function to some kind of below function, just
like currently what perf_reg_name() does.

uint64_t perf_intr_reg_mask(const char *arch)
{
    uint64_t mask = 0;

    if (!strcmp(arch, "csky"))
        mask = perf_intr_reg_mask_csky(id);
    else if (!strcmp(arch, "loongarch"))
        mask = perf_intr_reg_mask_loongarch(id);
    else if (!strcmp(arch, "mips"))
        mask = perf_intr_reg_mask_mips(id);
    else if (!strcmp(arch, "powerpc"))
        mask = perf_intr_reg_mask_powerpc(id);
    else if (!strcmp(arch, "riscv"))
        mask = perf_intr_reg_mask_riscv(id);
    else if (!strcmp(arch, "s390"))
        mask = perf_intr_reg_mask_s390(id);
    else if (!strcmp(arch, "x86"))
        mask = perf_intr_reg_mask_x86(id);
    else if (!strcmp(arch, "arm"))
        mask = perf_intr_reg_mask_arm(id);
    else if (!strcmp(arch, "arm64"))
        mask = perf_intr_reg_mask_arm64(id);

    return mask;
}

But currently there are some arch-dependent instructions in these
arch-specific instructions, like the below code in powerpc specific
arch__intr_reg_mask().

    version = (((mfspr(SPRN_PVR)) >>  16) & 0xFFFF);

mfspr is a powerpc specific instruction, building this converted
perf_intr_reg_mask on non-powerpc platform would lead to building error.

-Dapeng Mi

>
> I also noticed that I think we're sampling the XMM registers for dwarf
> unwinding, but it seems unlikely the XMM registers will hold stack
> frame information - so this is probably an x86 inefficiency.
>
> Thanks,
> Ian
>

  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-19  6:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-03  6:54 [Patch v5 00/19] Support SIMD/eGPRs/SSP registers sampling for perf Dapeng Mi
2025-12-03  6:54 ` [Patch v5 01/19] perf: Eliminate duplicate arch-specific functions definations Dapeng Mi
2025-12-03  6:54 ` [Patch v5 02/19] perf/x86: Use x86_perf_regs in the x86 nmi handler Dapeng Mi
2025-12-03  6:54 ` [Patch v5 03/19] perf/x86: Introduce x86-specific x86_pmu_setup_regs_data() Dapeng Mi
2025-12-03  6:54 ` [Patch v5 04/19] x86/fpu/xstate: Add xsaves_nmi() helper Dapeng Mi
2025-12-03  6:54 ` [Patch v5 05/19] perf: Move and rename has_extended_regs() for ARCH-specific use Dapeng Mi
2025-12-03  6:54 ` [Patch v5 06/19] perf/x86: Add support for XMM registers in non-PEBS and REGS_USER Dapeng Mi
2025-12-04 15:17   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-04 15:47     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-05  6:37       ` Mi, Dapeng
2025-12-04 18:59     ` Dave Hansen
2025-12-05  8:42       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-03  6:54 ` [Patch v5 07/19] perf: Add sampling support for SIMD registers Dapeng Mi
2025-12-05 11:07   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-08  5:24     ` Mi, Dapeng
2025-12-05 11:40   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-08  6:00     ` Mi, Dapeng
2025-12-03  6:54 ` [Patch v5 08/19] perf/x86: Enable XMM sampling using sample_simd_vec_reg_* fields Dapeng Mi
2025-12-05 11:25   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-08  6:10     ` Mi, Dapeng
2025-12-03  6:54 ` [Patch v5 09/19] perf/x86: Enable YMM " Dapeng Mi
2025-12-03  6:54 ` [Patch v5 10/19] perf/x86: Enable ZMM " Dapeng Mi
2025-12-03  6:54 ` [Patch v5 11/19] perf/x86: Enable OPMASK sampling using sample_simd_pred_reg_* fields Dapeng Mi
2025-12-03  6:54 ` [Patch v5 12/19] perf/x86: Enable eGPRs sampling using sample_regs_* fields Dapeng Mi
2025-12-05 12:16   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-08  6:11     ` Mi, Dapeng
2025-12-03  6:54 ` [Patch v5 13/19] perf/x86: Enable SSP " Dapeng Mi
2025-12-05 12:20   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-08  6:21     ` Mi, Dapeng
2025-12-24  5:45   ` Ravi Bangoria
2025-12-24  6:26     ` Mi, Dapeng
2026-01-06  6:55       ` Mi, Dapeng
2025-12-03  6:54 ` [Patch v5 14/19] perf/x86/intel: Enable PERF_PMU_CAP_SIMD_REGS capability Dapeng Mi
2025-12-03  6:54 ` [Patch v5 15/19] perf/x86/intel: Enable arch-PEBS based SIMD/eGPRs/SSP sampling Dapeng Mi
2025-12-03  6:54 ` [Patch v5 16/19] perf/x86: Activate back-to-back NMI detection for arch-PEBS induced NMIs Dapeng Mi
2025-12-05 12:39   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-07 20:44     ` Andi Kleen
2025-12-08  6:46     ` Mi, Dapeng
2025-12-08  8:50       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-12-08  8:53         ` Mi, Dapeng
2025-12-03  6:54 ` [Patch v5 17/19] perf headers: Sync with the kernel headers Dapeng Mi
2025-12-03 23:43   ` Ian Rogers
2025-12-04  1:37     ` Mi, Dapeng
2025-12-04  7:28       ` Ian Rogers
2026-01-20  7:01   ` Ian Rogers
2026-01-20  7:25     ` Mi, Dapeng
2026-01-20  7:16   ` Ian Rogers
2026-01-20  7:43     ` Mi, Dapeng
2026-01-20  8:00       ` Ian Rogers
2026-01-20  9:22         ` Mi, Dapeng
2026-01-20 18:11           ` Ian Rogers
2026-01-21  2:03             ` Mi, Dapeng
2025-12-03  6:54 ` [Patch v5 18/19] perf parse-regs: Support new SIMD sampling format Dapeng Mi
2025-12-04  0:17   ` Ian Rogers
2025-12-04  2:58     ` Mi, Dapeng
2025-12-04  7:49       ` Ian Rogers
2025-12-04  9:20         ` Mi, Dapeng
2025-12-04 16:16           ` Ian Rogers
2025-12-05  4:00             ` Mi, Dapeng
2025-12-05  6:38               ` Ian Rogers
2025-12-05  8:10                 ` Mi, Dapeng
2025-12-05 16:35                   ` Ian Rogers
2025-12-08  4:20                     ` Mi, Dapeng
2026-01-06  7:27                       ` Mi, Dapeng
2026-01-17  5:50                         ` Ian Rogers
2026-01-19  6:55                           ` Mi, Dapeng [this message]
2026-01-19 20:25                             ` Ian Rogers
2026-01-20  3:04                               ` Mi, Dapeng
2026-01-20  5:16                                 ` Ian Rogers
2026-01-20  6:46                                   ` Mi, Dapeng
2026-01-20  6:56                                     ` Ian Rogers
2026-01-20  7:39   ` Ian Rogers
2026-01-20  9:04     ` Mi, Dapeng
2026-01-20 18:20       ` Ian Rogers
2026-01-21  5:17         ` Mi, Dapeng
2026-01-21  7:09           ` Ian Rogers
2026-01-21  7:52             ` Mi, Dapeng
2026-01-21 14:48               ` Ian Rogers
2026-01-22  1:49                 ` Mi, Dapeng
2026-01-22  7:27                   ` Ian Rogers
2026-01-22  8:29                     ` Mi, Dapeng
2025-12-03  6:55 ` [Patch v5 19/19] perf regs: Enable dumping of SIMD registers Dapeng Mi
2025-12-04  0:24 ` [Patch v5 00/19] Support SIMD/eGPRs/SSP registers sampling for perf Ian Rogers
2025-12-04  3:28   ` Mi, Dapeng
2025-12-16  4:42 ` Ravi Bangoria
2025-12-16  6:59   ` Mi, Dapeng

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