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From: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
To: Anton Ivanov <anton.ivanov@cambridgegreys.com>,
	Andrei Vagin <avagin@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	Benjamin Berg <benjamin@sipsolutions.net>
Cc: linux-um@lists.infradead.org, criu@openvz.org, avagin@google.com,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@ubuntu.com>,
	Dmitry Safonov <0x7f454c46@gmail.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Jeff Dike <jdike@addtoit.com>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.ibm.com>,
	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4 POC] Allow executing code and syscalls in another address space
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 09:34:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9f8280540bbc6f3c857ac5749eeafcd145577da3.camel@sipsolutions.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <78cdee11-1923-595f-90d2-e236efbafa6a@cambridgegreys.com>

On Wed, 2021-04-14 at 08:22 +0100, Anton Ivanov wrote:
> On 14/04/2021 06:52, Andrei Vagin wrote:
> > We already have process_vm_readv and process_vm_writev to read and write
> > to a process memory faster than we can do this with ptrace. And now it
> > is time for process_vm_exec that allows executing code in an address
> > space of another process. We can do this with ptrace but it is much
> > slower.
> > 
> > = Use-cases =
> > 
> > Here are two known use-cases. The first one is “application kernel”
> > sandboxes like User-mode Linux and gVisor. In this case, we have a
> > process that runs the sandbox kernel and a set of stub processes that
> > are used to manage guest address spaces. Guest code is executed in the
> > context of stub processes but all system calls are intercepted and
> > handled in the sandbox kernel. Right now, these sort of sandboxes use
> > PTRACE_SYSEMU to trap system calls, but the process_vm_exec can
> > significantly speed them up.
> 
> Certainly interesting, but will require um to rework most of its memory 
> management and we will most likely need extra mm support to make use of 
> it in UML. We are not likely to get away just with one syscall there.

Might help the seccomp mode though:

https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/project/linux-um/list/?series=231980

johannes



  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-14  7:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-14  5:52 Andrei Vagin
2021-04-14  5:52 ` [PATCH 1/4] signal: add a helper to restore a process state from sigcontex Andrei Vagin
2021-04-14  5:52 ` [PATCH 2/4] arch/x86: implement the process_vm_exec syscall Andrei Vagin
2021-04-14 17:09   ` Oleg Nesterov
2021-04-23  6:59     ` Andrei Vagin
2021-06-28 16:13   ` Jann Horn
2021-06-28 16:30     ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-28 17:14       ` Jann Horn
2021-06-28 18:18         ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-06-29  1:01           ` Andrei Vagin
2021-07-02  6:22     ` Andrei Vagin
2021-07-02 11:51       ` Jann Horn
2021-07-02 20:40         ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-07-02  8:51   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-02 22:21     ` Andrei Vagin
2021-07-02 20:56   ` Jann Horn
2021-07-02 22:48     ` Andrei Vagin
2021-04-14  5:52 ` [PATCH 3/4] arch/x86: allow to execute syscalls via process_vm_exec Andrei Vagin
2021-04-14  5:52 ` [PATCH 4/4] selftests: add tests for process_vm_exec Andrei Vagin
2021-04-14  6:46 ` [PATCH 0/4 POC] Allow executing code and syscalls in another address space Jann Horn
2021-04-14 22:10   ` Andrei Vagin
2021-07-02  6:57   ` Andrei Vagin
2021-07-02 15:12     ` Jann Horn
2021-07-18  0:38       ` Andrei Vagin
2021-04-14  7:22 ` Anton Ivanov
2021-04-14  7:34   ` Johannes Berg [this message]
2021-04-14  9:24     ` Benjamin Berg
2021-04-14 10:27 ` Florian Weimer
2021-04-14 11:24   ` Jann Horn
2021-04-14 12:20     ` Florian Weimer
2021-04-14 13:58       ` Jann Horn
2021-04-16 19:29 ` Kirill Smelkov
2021-07-02 22:44 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-07-18  1:34   ` Andrei Vagin

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