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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
To: Ralf Ramsauer <ralf.ramsauer@oth-regensburg.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Cc: "Gupta, Pawan Kumar" <pawan.kumar.gupta@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [FYI PATCH 0/7] Mitigation for CVE-2018-12207
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 19:08:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9f8b95d1-7b5f-d16d-2e5a-52f4b9cd0922@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <60b2a488-74b8-897c-4b25-e228d3fe7d55@oth-regensburg.de>

On 18.11.19 14:58, Ralf Ramsauer wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> 
> On 11/14/19 9:09 AM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>> On 13.11.19 22:24, Dave Hansen wrote:
>>> On 11/13/19 12:23 AM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>>>> On 13/11/19 07:38, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>>>> When reading MCE, error code 0150h, ie. SRAR, I was wondering if that
>>>>> couldn't simply be handled by the host. But I suppose the symptom of
>>>>> that erratum is not "just" regular recoverable MCE, rather
>>>>> sometimes/always an unrecoverable CPU state, despite the error code,
>>>>> right?
>>>> The erratum documentation talks explicitly about hanging the system, but
>>>> it's not clear if it's just a result of the OS mishandling the MCE, or
>>>> something worse.  So I don't know. :(  Pawan, do you?
>>>
>>> It's "something worse".
>>>
>>> I built a kernel module reproducer for this a long time ago.  The
>>> symptom I observed was the whole system hanging hard, requiring me to go
>>> hit the power button.  The MCE software machinery was not involved at
>>> all from what I could tell.
>>
>> Thanks for clarifying this - too bad.
>>
>>>
>>> About creating a unit test, I'd be personally happy to share my
>>> reproducer, but I built it before this issue was root-caused.  There are
> 
> I'd appreciate if you could share your code.
> 
>>> actually quite a few underlying variants and a good unit test would make
>>> sure to exercise all of them.  My reproducer probably only exercised a
>>> single case.
> 
> Still, it triggers the issue, that's enough to compare it to my reproducer.
> 
>>>
>>
>> Would be interesting to see this. Ralf and tried something quickly, but
>> there seems to be a detail missing or wrong.
> 
> Yep, we still can't reproduce the issue on an affected CPU, and don't
> know what we miss.

I just realized that this thread stranded. Ralf told me that he got no 
access to that reproducer which would be very valuable for us right now 
to validate a static mitigation method in Jailhouse. Any chance to get 
the access?

Thanks a lot,
Jan

-- 
Siemens AG, Corporate Technology, CT RDA IOT SES-DE
Corporate Competence Center Embedded Linux

  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-21 18:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-12 21:21 Paolo Bonzini
2019-11-12 21:21 ` [PATCH 1/7] x86/bugs: Add ITLB_MULTIHIT bug infrastructure Paolo Bonzini
2019-11-12 21:21 ` [PATCH 2/7] x86/cpu: Add Tremont to the cpu vulnerability whitelist Paolo Bonzini
2019-11-12 21:21 ` [PATCH 3/7] cpu/speculation: Uninline and export CPU mitigations helpers Paolo Bonzini
2019-11-12 21:21 ` [PATCH 4/7] kvm: mmu: ITLB_MULTIHIT mitigation Paolo Bonzini
2019-11-12 21:21 ` [PATCH 5/7] kvm: Add helper function for creating VM worker threads Paolo Bonzini
2019-11-12 21:21 ` [PATCH 6/7] kvm: x86: mmu: Recovery of shattered NX large pages Paolo Bonzini
2019-11-12 21:21 ` [PATCH 7/7] Documentation: Add ITLB_MULTIHIT documentation Paolo Bonzini
2019-11-13  6:38 ` [FYI PATCH 0/7] Mitigation for CVE-2018-12207 Jan Kiszka
2019-11-13  8:23   ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-11-13 21:24     ` Dave Hansen
2019-11-14  1:17       ` Nadav Amit
2019-11-14  5:26         ` Dave Hansen
2019-11-14  6:02           ` Nadav Amit
2019-11-15  2:11           ` Pawan Gupta
2019-11-14  8:09       ` Jan Kiszka
2019-11-18 13:58         ` Ralf Ramsauer
2020-01-21 18:08           ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2020-01-21 18:25             ` Dave Hansen
2019-11-13 23:25     ` Pawan Gupta
2019-11-14  8:13       ` Jan Kiszka
2019-11-15  2:23         ` Pawan Gupta
2019-11-13 13:00 ` Jinpu Wang
2019-11-13 14:44   ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-11-13 18:10 ` Nadav Amit
2019-11-13 18:33   ` Paolo Bonzini

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