From: tarunsahu@google.com
To: Pratyush Yadav <pratyush@kernel.org>,
Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>
Cc: Pratyush Yadav <pratyush@kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
Alexander Graf <graf@amazon.com>,
skhawaja@google.com, kexec@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 3/3] luo: Update serialized data to use KHOSER_PTR
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2026 15:33:21 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9huzbjbx201q.fsf@tarunix.c.googlers.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2vxzldbklb18.fsf@kernel.org>
Hello,
I dont have much opinion here. I am writing this as a
gentle reminder to the open discussion below.
~Tarun
Pratyush Yadav <pratyush@kernel.org> writes:
> Hi Pasha,
>
> On Mon, Jun 29 2026, Pasha Tatashin wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 28 Jun 2026 00:11:14 +0000, Tarun Sahu <tarunsahu@google.com> wrote:
>>> diff --git a/include/linux/kho/abi/luo.h b/include/linux/kho/abi/luo.h
>>> index 288076de6d4a..9e78625cfdc1 100644
>>> --- a/include/linux/kho/abi/luo.h
>>> +++ b/include/linux/kho/abi/luo.h
>>> @@ -89,14 +90,14 @@ struct luo_ser {
>>> /**
>>> * struct luo_file_ser - Represents the serialized preserves files.
>>> * @compatible: File handler compatible string.
>>> - * @data: Private data
>>> + * @serialized_data: The serialized KHO pointer for this file
>>
>> I am concerned about layring violation here.
>>
>> LUO is designed as a generic, opaque transport layer that promises to
>> preserve 64 bits of raw data. How those 64 bits are interpreted is
>> entirely up to individual clients.
>>
>> While some clients like memfd_luo will use those 64 bits as a physical
>> address pointing to KHO-preserved structures, other clients may store a
>> generic token, cookie, index, or non-pointer status. By
>> changing u64 data to DECLARE_KHOSER_PTR(serialized_data, void *) in
>> struct luo_file_ser, we force KHO pointer semantics and layout
>> constraints on all generic LUO files.
>
> That makes sense theory, but in practice, no file handler is going to
> need only 8 bytes for its metadata. It is always going to need more, and
> to store more information, it needs to store a pointer to that
> information with the 64 bits it gets.
>
> Do you have any examples of something else one might store here?
>
> At least looking at the current file handlers merged and in flight,
> memfd, iommufd, vfio, pci, hugetlb, guest_memfd, all of them store a
> pointer here.
>
> And if everyone is only storing pointers in this field, might as well
> give them a bit of type safety.
>
>>
>> Clients that need KHO pointer serialization must cast that opaque 64-bit
>> value to/from a KHOSER_PTR within their own callbacks.
>>
>> Also, the field descriptions in struct luo_file_ser are no longer
>> aligned due to the length of the new variable name, I believe it will
>> cause warning when making docs.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Pratyush Yadav
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-07-23 15:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-28 0:11 [PATCH v6 0/3] luo: convert serialized ptr to KHOSER_PTR Tarun Sahu
2026-06-28 0:11 ` [PATCH v6 1/3] mm/memfd_luo: validate serialized_data before conversion Tarun Sahu
2026-06-28 0:11 ` [PATCH v6 2/3] kho: add KHOSER_COPY_PTR to allow phys copy of serialized ptr Tarun Sahu
2026-06-28 0:11 ` [PATCH v6 3/3] luo: Update serialized data to use KHOSER_PTR Tarun Sahu
2026-06-29 7:01 ` Pasha Tatashin
2026-07-09 10:20 ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-07-23 15:33 ` tarunsahu [this message]
2026-07-24 16:46 ` Pasha Tatashin
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