From: Nadav Amit <namit@vmware.com>
To: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@intel.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
Jason Wessel <jason.wessel@windriver.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/6] x86/alternative: assert text_mutex is taken
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2018 05:23:01 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <A729271C-5646-470D-B200-7C552EB18FC8@vmware.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180830112649.4b774f401d99a8b98e12008c@kernel.org>
at 7:26 PM, Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 14:00:06 -0700
> Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@intel.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 08:44:47PM +0000, Nadav Amit wrote:
>>> at 1:13 PM, Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@intel.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 07:36:22PM +0000, Nadav Amit wrote:
>>>>> at 10:11 AM, Nadav Amit <namit@vmware.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> at 1:59 AM, Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 01:11:42 -0700
>>>>>>> Nadav Amit <namit@vmware.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Use lockdep to ensure that text_mutex is taken when text_poke() is
>>>>>>>> called.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Actually it is not always taken, specifically when it is called by kgdb,
>>>>>>>> so take the lock in these cases.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can we really take a mutex in kgdb context?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> kgdb_arch_remove_breakpoint
>>>>>>> <- dbg_deactivate_sw_breakpoints
>>>>>>> <- kgdb_reenter_check
>>>>>>> <- kgdb_handle_exception
>>>>>>> <- __kgdb_notify
>>>>>>> <- kgdb_ll_trap
>>>>>>> <- do_int3
>>>>>>> <- kgdb_notify
>>>>>>> <- die notifier
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> kgdb_arch_set_breakpoint
>>>>>>> <- dbg_activate_sw_breakpoints
>>>>>>> <- kgdb_reenter_check
>>>>>>> <- kgdb_handle_exception
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Both seems called in exception context, so we can not take a mutex lock.
>>>>>>> I think kgdb needs a special path.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are correct, but I don’t want a special path. Presumably text_mutex is
>>>>>> guaranteed not to be taken according to the code.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I guess the only concern is lockdep. Do you see any problem if I change
>>>>>> mutex_lock() into mutex_trylock()? It should always succeed, and I can add a
>>>>>> warning and a failure path if it fails for some reason.
>>>>>
>>>>> Err.. This will not work. I think I will drop this patch, since I cannot
>>>>> find a proper yet simple assertion. Creating special path just for the
>>>>> assertion seems wrong.
>>>>
>>>> It's probably worth expanding the comment for text_poke() to call out
>>>> the kgdb case and reference kgdb_arch_{set,remove}_breakpoint(), whose
>>>> code and comments make it explicitly clear why its safe for them to
>>>> call text_poke() without acquiring the lock. Might prevent someone
>>>> from going down this path again in the future.
>>>
>>> I thought that the whole point of the patch was to avoid comments, and
>>> instead enforce the right behavior. I don’t understand well enough kgdb
>>> code, so I cannot attest it does the right thing. What happens if
>>> kgdb_do_roundup==0?
>>
>> As is, the comment is wrong because there are obviously cases where
>> text_poke() is called without text_mutex being held. I can't attest
>> to the kgdb code either. My thought was to document the exception so
>> that if someone does want to try and enforce the right behavior they
>> can dive right into the problem instead of having to learn of the kgdb
>> gotcha the hard way. Maybe a FIXME is the right approach?
>
> No, kgdb ensures that the text_mutex has not been held right before
> calling text_poke. So they also take care the text_mutex. I guess
> kgdb_arch_{set,remove}_breakpoint() is supposed to be run under
> a special circumstance, like stopping all other threads/cores.
> In that case, we can just check the text_mutex is not locked.
I assumed so too, but after looking at the code, I am not sure that this is
the case when gdb_do_roundup==0.
> Anyway, kgdb is a very rare courner case. I think if CONFIG_KGDB is
> enabled, lockdep and any assertion should be disabled, since kgdb
> can tweak anything in the kernel with unexpected ways...
Call me lazy, but I really do not want to debug syzkaller failures due to
this issue (now or in the future). If the assertion is known to be
incorrect, even in a corner case, I see no reason to have it and I certainly
do not want to be the one that added it…
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-08-30 5:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-08-29 8:11 [RFC PATCH 0/6] x86: text_poke() fixes Nadav Amit
2018-08-29 8:11 ` [RFC PATCH 1/6] x86/alternative: assert text_mutex is taken Nadav Amit
2018-08-29 8:59 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2018-08-29 17:11 ` Nadav Amit
2018-08-29 19:36 ` Nadav Amit
2018-08-29 20:13 ` Sean Christopherson
2018-08-29 20:44 ` Nadav Amit
2018-08-29 21:00 ` Sean Christopherson
2018-08-29 22:56 ` Nadav Amit
2018-08-30 2:26 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2018-08-30 5:23 ` Nadav Amit [this message]
2018-08-29 8:11 ` [RFC PATCH 2/6] x86/mm: temporary mm struct Nadav Amit
2018-08-29 9:49 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2018-08-29 15:41 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-08-29 16:54 ` Nadav Amit
2018-08-29 21:38 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-08-30 1:38 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2018-08-30 1:59 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-08-31 4:42 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2018-08-29 15:46 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-08-29 8:11 ` [RFC PATCH 3/6] fork: provide a function for copying init_mm Nadav Amit
2018-08-29 9:54 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2018-08-29 8:11 ` [RFC PATCH 4/6] x86/alternatives: initializing temporary mm for patching Nadav Amit
2018-08-29 13:21 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2018-08-29 17:45 ` Nadav Amit
2018-08-29 8:11 ` [RFC PATCH 5/6] x86/alternatives: use temporary mm for text poking Nadav Amit
2018-08-29 9:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-08-29 15:46 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-08-29 16:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-08-29 16:32 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-08-29 16:37 ` Dave Hansen
2018-08-29 8:11 ` [RFC PATCH 6/6] x86/alternatives: remove text_poke() return value Nadav Amit
2018-08-29 9:52 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2018-08-29 17:15 ` Nadav Amit
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