From: Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>
To: Doug Warzecha <Douglas_Warzecha@dell.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 2.6.13-rc6] add Dell Systems Management Base Driver (dcdbas) with sysfs support
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 16:23:37 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <AC1976B5-FAFC-4809-B1B2-579D5F14FDFE@mac.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050815200522.GA3667@sysman-doug.us.dell.com>
On Aug 15, 2005, at 16:05:22, Doug Warzecha wrote:
> This patch adds the Dell Systems Management Base Driver with sysfs
> support.
> +On some Dell systems, systems management software must access certain
> +management information via a system management interrupt (SMI).
> The SMI data
> +buffer must reside in 32-bit address space, and the physical
> address of the
> +buffer is required for the SMI. The driver maintains the memory
> required for
> +the SMI and provides a way for the application to generate the SMI.
> +The driver creates the following sysfs entries for systems management
> +software to perform these system management interrupts:
Why can't you just implement the system management actions in the kernel
driver? This is tantamount to a binary SMI hook to userspace. What
functionality does this provide on a dell system from an administrator's
point of view?
> +Host Control Action
> +
> +Dell OpenManage supports a host control feature that allows the
> administrator
> +to perform a power cycle or power off of the system after the OS
> has finished
> +shutting down. On some Dell systems, this host control feature
> requires that
> +a driver perform a SMI after the OS has finished shutting down.
> +
> +The driver creates the following sysfs entries for systems
> management software
> +to schedule the driver to perform a power cycle or power off host
> control
> +action after the system has finished shutting down:
> +
> +/sys/devices/platform/dcdbas/host_control_action
> +/sys/devices/platform/dcdbas/host_control_smi_type
> +/sys/devices/platform/dcdbas/host_control_on_shutdown
How is this different from shutdown() or reboot()? What exactly is
smi_type used
for? Please provide better documentation on how to use this and what
it does.
If this is supposed to be used with the RBU code to trigger a BIOS
update, then
why not integrate it into one kernel driver that receives firmware,
loads it into
the BIOS, and properly resets the machine at powerdown? I think
PowerPC does a
similar thing with OpenFirmware flash memory. When I change the
default boot
device or other firmware environment, I get a message from the kernel
upon
shutdown:
Erasing <BRAND> flash bank 1...
Writing <BRAND> flash bank 1...
Would not a similar system work for Dell? It would be far simpler to
use than
the current mess of patches you've proposed. If done properly, I
could even
do this:
cat firmware-with-checksum.img >/sys/devices/platform/dellbios/
firmware_upgrade
Then an ordinary system reboot or shutdown would automatically use
the SMI and
host-control-action to upgrade the firmware and shutdown or reboot,
instead of
the normal ACPI shutdown and reboot code.
Cheers,
Kyle Moffett
--
Somone asked me why I work on this free (http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/)
software stuff and not get a real job. Charles Shultz had the best
answer:
"Why do musicians compose symphonies and poets write poems? They do
it because
life wouldn't have any meaning for them if they didn't. That's why I
draw
cartoons. It's my life."
-- Charles Shultz
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-08-15 20:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-08-15 20:05 Doug Warzecha
2005-08-15 20:23 ` Kyle Moffett [this message]
2005-08-15 23:38 ` Doug Warzecha
2005-08-16 1:44 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-08-16 2:43 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-08-16 4:34 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-08-16 4:55 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-08-16 5:14 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-08-16 5:52 ` Greg KH
2005-08-17 0:02 ` Doug Warzecha
2005-08-15 22:58 Michael_E_Brown
2005-08-16 1:29 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-08-16 3:10 ` Michael E Brown
2005-08-16 5:59 ` Nathan Lutchansky
2005-08-16 8:16 ` Greg KH
2005-08-16 13:34 ` Michael E Brown
2005-08-16 20:31 ` Pavel Machek
2005-08-16 20:37 ` Greg KH
2005-08-16 23:11 ` Michael_E_Brown
2005-08-16 23:23 ` Greg KH
2005-08-16 4:09 Michael E Brown
2005-08-16 5:17 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-08-16 5:30 ` Michael E Brown
2005-08-16 4:58 Michael E Brown
2005-08-16 5:36 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-08-16 6:10 ` Michael E Brown
2005-08-16 6:45 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-08-16 12:15 ` Andrey Panin
2005-08-16 5:19 Michael E Brown
2005-08-16 5:35 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-08-16 5:50 ` Michael E Brown
2005-08-16 23:47 Michael_E_Brown
2005-08-17 5:33 ` Matt Domsch
2005-08-17 7:32 ` Kyle Moffett
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2005-08-17 0:23 ` Andi Kleen
2005-08-17 0:41 ` Michael E Brown
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