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From: Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>
To: mfbaustx <mfbaustx@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: copy_from_user / copy_to_user with no swap space
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:39:16 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <B72905BB-6E8D-47FD-9A20-269B27136DB2@mac.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <op.thi3x1mvnwjy9v@titan>

On Oct 16, 2006, at 15:19:03, mfbaustx wrote:
> So you're absolutely obligated to DO the copy at the time the  
> kernel is executing on behalf of that process.  Once your process/ 
> thread is context swapped, you've lost the [correct] information on  
> the address mapping.

Yes, this is correct.

> So, IF you MUST copy_from/to_user when in the context of the  
> process, AND IF you have no virtual memory/swapping, THEN must it  
> not be true that you can ALWAYS dereferences your user space pointers?

I'm not sure I entirely understand what you're asking here; perhaps  
you could rephrase or explain what you're trying to do?  From what I  
can pick up from your description; you may be missing that program  
text pages and memory-mapped files may be "swapped-out" even  
*without* a swap device.  As an example, when I first start /bin/bash  
(ignoring readahead for the moment), very little of the binary and  
shared libraries are actually in memory (the rest is left on disk).   
When I use data or call a function that hasn't been loaded from disk  
yet, a major fault occurs, the kernel loads data from the bash  
executable file or a shared library, and then maps it into the  
process address space.

Cheers,
Kyle Moffett


  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-10-16 19:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-10-16 19:19 mfbaustx
2006-10-16 19:28 ` Oliver Neukum
2006-10-16 19:47   ` mfbaustx
2006-10-17 10:58     ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-10-17 12:00     ` Helge Hafting
2006-10-16 19:34 ` Al Viro
2006-10-16 19:39 ` Kyle Moffett [this message]
2006-10-16 20:26   ` mfbaustx
2006-10-16 20:21 ` Horst H. von Brand

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