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From: David Sharp <dhsharp@google.com>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Cc: Vaibhav Nagarnaik <vnagarnaik@google.com>,
	Paul Menage <menage@google.com>, Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Michael Rubin <mrubin@google.com>, Ken Chen <kenchen@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	containers@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] tracing: Adding cgroup aware tracing functionality
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 13:22:30 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTim70Ef0gy+W+4h76PABn32wDRvTtw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110407120608.GB1798@nowhere>

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 5:06 AM, Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 08:17:33PM -0700, Vaibhav Nagarnaik wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 11:50:21AM -0700, Vaibhav Nagarnaik wrote:
>> >> All
>> >> The cgroup functionality is being used widely in different scenarios. It also
>> >> is being integrated with other parts of kernel to take advantage of its
>> >> features. One of the areas that is not yet aware of cgroup functionality is
>> >> the ftrace framework.
>> >>
>> >> Although ftrace provides a way to filter based on PIDs of tasks to be traced,
>> >> it is restricted to specific tracers, like function tracer. Also it becomes
>> >> difficult to keep track of all PIDs in a dynamic environment with processes
>> >> being created and destroyed in a short amount of time.
>> >>
>> >> An application that creates many processes/tasks is convenient to track and
>> >> control with cgroups, but it is difficult to track these processes for the
>> >> purposes of tracing. And if child processes are moved to another cgroup, it
>> >> makes sense to trace only the original cgroup.
>> >>
>> >> This proposal is to create a file in the tracing directory called
>> >> set_trace_cgroup to which a user can write the path of an active cgroup, one
>> >> at a time. If no cgroups are specified, no filtering is done and all tasks are
>> >> traced. When a cgroup path is added in, it sets a boolean tracing_enabled for
>> >> the enabled cgroup in all the hierarchies, which enables tracing for all the
>> >> assigned tasks under the specified cgroup.
>> >>
>> >> Though creating a new file in the directory is not desirable, but this
>> >> interface seems the most appropriate change required to implement the new
>> >> feature.
>> >>
>> >> This tracing_enabled flag is also exported in the cgroupfs directory structure
>> >> which can be turned on/off for a specific hierarchy/cgroup combination. This
>> >> gives control to enable/disable tracing over a cgroup in a specific hierarchy
>> >> only.
>> >>
>> >> This gives more fine-grained control over the tasks being traced. I would like
>> >> to know your thoughts on this interface and the approach to make tracing
>> >> cgroup aware.
>> >
>> > So I have to ask, why can't you use perf events to do tracing limited on cgroups?
>> > It has this cgroup context awareness.

Perf doesn't have the same latency characteristics as ftrace. It costs
a full microsecond for every trace event.

https://lkml.org/lkml/2010/10/28/261

It's possible these results need to be updated. Has any effort been
made to improve the tracing latency of perf?

>> The perf event cgroup awareness comes from creating a different hierarchy for
>> perf events. When the events and the current task's cgroup match, the events
>> are logged. So the changes are pretty specific to the perf events.
>>
>> Even in the case where changes are made to handle trace events, the interface
>> files are still needed. The interface used to specify perf events uses the
>> perf_event syscall which isn't available to specify trace events.
>>
>> This is based on my limited understanding of the perf_events cgroup awareness
>> patch. Please correct me if I am missing anything.
>
>
> Ah but perf events can do much more than counting and sampling
> hardware events. Trace events can be used as perf events too.
>
> List the events:
>
>        perf list -e tracepoints
>
> List of pre-defined events (to be used in -e):
>
>  skb:kfree_skb                              [Tracepoint event]
>  skb:consume_skb                            [Tracepoint event]
>  skb:skb_copy_datagram_iovec                [Tracepoint event]
>  net:net_dev_xmit                           [Tracepoint event]
>  net:net_dev_queue                          [Tracepoint event]
>  net:netif_receive_skb                      [Tracepoint event]
>  net:netif_rx                               [Tracepoint event]
>  napi:napi_poll                             [Tracepoint event]
>  scsi:scsi_dispatch_cmd_start               [Tracepoint event]
>  scsi:scsi_dispatch_cmd_error               [Tracepoint event]
>  scsi:scsi_dispatch_cmd_done                [Tracepoint event]
>  scsi:scsi_dispatch_cmd_timeout             [Tracepoint event]
>  scsi:scsi_eh_wakeup                        [Tracepoint event]
>  drm:drm_vblank_event                       [Tracepoint event]
>  drm:drm_vblank_event_queued                [Tracepoint event]
>  drm:drm_vblank_event_delivered             [Tracepoint event]
>  block:block_rq_abort                       [Tracepoint event]
>  block:block_rq_requeue                     [Tracepoint event]
>  block:block_rq_complete                    [Tracepoint event]
>  block:block_rq_insert                      [Tracepoint event]
>  etc...
>
>
> Trace sched switch events:
>
>        perf record -e sched:sched_switch -a
>        ^C
>
>
> Print them:
>
>        perf script
>
>         swapper     0 [000]  1132.964598: sched_switch: prev_comm=swapper prev_pid=0 prev_prio=120 prev_state=R ==> next_comm
>     kworker/0:1  4358 [000]  1132.964641: sched_switch: prev_comm=kworker/0:1 prev_pid=4358 prev_prio=120 prev_state=S ==> ne
>         syslogd  2703 [000]  1132.964720: sched_switch: prev_comm=syslogd prev_pid=2703 prev_prio=120 prev_state=D ==> next_c
>         swapper     0 [000]  1132.965100: sched_switch: prev_comm=swapper prev_pid=0 prev_prio=120 prev_state=R ==> next_comm
>            perf  4725 [001]  1132.965178: sched_switch: prev_comm=perf prev_pid=4725 prev_prio=120 prev_state=D ==> next_comm
>         swapper     0 [001]  1132.965227: sched_switch: prev_comm=kworker/0:0 prev_pid=0 prev_prio=120 prev_state=R ==> next_
>            perf  4725 [001]  1132.965246: sched_switch: prev_comm=perf prev_pid=4725 prev_prio=120 prev_state=D ==> next_comm
>        etc...
>
>

  reply	other threads:[~2011-04-07 20:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-06 18:50 Vaibhav Nagarnaik
2011-04-07  1:33 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-04-07  3:17   ` Vaibhav Nagarnaik
2011-04-07 12:06     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-04-07 20:22       ` David Sharp [this message]
2011-04-07 21:32         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-04-07 22:42           ` David Sharp
2011-04-08  0:28             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-04-08  7:37               ` Steven Rostedt
2011-04-08 13:45                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-04-08 14:07                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-04-08 18:32                     ` Michael Rubin
2011-04-08 20:27                       ` Justin TerAvest
2011-04-08 14:07                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-04-08 17:02                   ` Steven Rostedt
2011-04-09 11:08                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-04-08 19:00                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-04-08 20:38                   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-04-08 21:41                     ` David Sharp
2011-04-12 21:38                       ` Frederic Weisbecker

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