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From: Vineet Gupta <Vineet.Gupta1@synopsys.com>
To: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>, arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"christian.ruppert@abilis.com" <christian.ruppert@abilis.com>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] pin control bulk changes for v3.13
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 11:39:54 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <C2D7FE5348E1B147BCA15975FBA23075155DCE@IN01WEMBXA.internal.synopsys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACRpkdYPgNK=bODvTo8+KHG7Yz448rw10Mqov8AjRB5RGMcqhg@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/11/2013 03:53 PM, Linus Walleij wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Vineet Gupta
> <Vineet.Gupta1@synopsys.com> wrote:
>> On 11/11/2013 03:03 PM, Linus Walleij wrote:
>>> Actually I think device tree changes - if you mean changes to this platform's
>>> DTS/DTSI files, should go through the ARC arch tree.
>> But current workflow is prone to broken bisectability - arch maintainers need to
>> make sure that the core/driver changes hit mainline before the actual dts/dtsi
>> files in arch/*
> No. This is *not* a bisectability problem, as it has been established
> that device trees and kernel code shall *not* be built and deployed
> together.

Well that is a fine design *goal*. But in reality (at least his patch) is making a
driver change and then enabling arch via DT to access it. I can't fathom what is
the issue with having both the changes routed via the same tree - other than
possible merge hassles - which can can PITA for arches such as ARM. So you can say
that as a general *practice* subsys guys don't prefer what I'm asking for and I'm
OK if you reason it that way. But saying that it is not a bisectability problem
and is design goal etc is bogus IMO.

> Consider:
>
> - Just subsystem changes are merged: OK you can still take your
>   DTS from somewhere and boot this kernel with it.
>
> - Just the arch/*/*.dts[i] changes are merged: OK these new DT
>   nodes remain unused, presumably the system survives anyway?
>
> It only becomes a problem if you also start to apply patches deleting
> functionality that has been moved over to the device tree in the same
> merge window - don't do that. Take a sweep with the broomstick
> next time instead.

Ya Ya I see, but the patch under consideration don't fall in either of those
buckets. We have 1 change in each of arch and subsys.

-Vineet

      reply	other threads:[~2013-11-11 11:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-11  6:44 Linus Walleij
2013-11-11  7:54 ` Vineet Gupta
2013-11-11  9:33   ` Linus Walleij
2013-11-11 10:00     ` Vineet Gupta
2013-11-11 10:23       ` Linus Walleij
2013-11-11 11:39         ` Vineet Gupta [this message]

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