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From: Jos Houtman <jos@hyves.nl>
To: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Page Cache writeback too slow,   SSD/noop scheduler/ext2
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 19:26:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <C5E99E4E.C0E0%jos@hyves.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <C5E989F1.C0C7%jos@hyves.nl>

Hi,

We have hit a problem where the page-cache writeback algorithm is not
keeping up.
When memory gets low this will result in very irregular performance drops.

Our setup is as follows:
30 x Quad core machine with 64GB ram.
These are single purpose machines running MySQL.
Kernel version: 2.6.28.7
A dedicated SSD drive for the ext2 database partition
Noop scheduler for the ssd drive.


The current hypothesis is as follows:
The wk_update function does not write enough dirty pages, which allows the
number of dirty pages to grow to the dirty_background limit.
When memory is low,  Œbackground_writeout() comes around and Œforcefully¹
writes dirty pages to disk.
This forced write fills the disk queue and starves read calls that MySQL is
trying to do: basically killing performance  for a few seconds.
This pattern repeats as soon as the cleared memory is filled again.

Decreasing the dirty_writeback_centisecs to 100 doesn¹t help

I don¹t know why this is, but I did some preliminary tracing using systemtap
and it seems that the majority of times wk_update calls decides to do
nothing.

Doubling /sys/block/sdb/queue/nr_requests  to 256, seems to help abit:  the
nr_dirty pages is increasing more slowly.
But I am unsure of side-effects and am afraid of increasing the starvation
problem for mysql.


I¹am very much willing to work on this issue and see it fixed, but would
like to tap into the knowledge of people here.
So: 
* Have more people seen this or simular issues?
* Is the hypothesis above a viable one?
* Suggestions/pointers for further research and statistics I should measure
to improve the understanding of this problem.



With regards,

Jos


       reply	other threads:[~2009-03-20 18:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <C5E989F1.C0C7%jos@hyves.nl>
2009-03-20 18:26 ` Jos Houtman [this message]
2009-03-21 10:53   ` Andrew Morton
     [not found] <C5EB16F4.C318%jos@hyves.nl>
2009-03-22 16:53 ` Jos Houtman
2009-03-24 14:48   ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-25  5:26     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-03-27 16:59       ` Jos Houtman
2009-03-29  2:32         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-03-30 16:47           ` Jos Houtman
2009-03-31  0:28             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-03-31 12:16             ` Jos Houtman
2009-03-31 12:31               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-03-31 14:10                 ` Jos Houtman

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