From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932450AbdJZTCc (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Oct 2017 15:02:32 -0400 Received: from mail-io0-f196.google.com ([209.85.223.196]:50730 "EHLO mail-io0-f196.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932327AbdJZTCa (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Oct 2017 15:02:30 -0400 X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+TOZdsuMbIbqCrxaCA5U45o9d3hrSCUoCYba288NqnOLr90cBN4hi2mwdfjOOiyeKtXO6orrzit9T+5J7DT+Ps= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1507003338.3174.4.camel@HansenPartnership.com> <1507007707.3082.16.camel@HansenPartnership.com> <5d57381f-e915-1b8f-7838-eba46ab89f34@suse.cz> <1508842981.3187.5.camel@HansenPartnership.com> <722a6eda-e834-30f8-bf57-ef6c596816f6@canonical.com> From: Linus Torvalds Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 21:02:29 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: uwnPai7PXVEpr80CEW3TeYylVWI Message-ID: Subject: Re: regression in 4.14-rc2 caused by apparmor: add base infastructure for socket mediation To: James Morris Cc: John Johansen , James Bottomley , Thorsten Leemhuis , Vlastimil Babka , Seth Arnold , linux-kernel Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 8:54 PM, James Morris wrote: > On Thu, 26 Oct 2017, Linus Torvalds wrote: > >> I'm *very* unhappy with the security layer as is > > What are you unhappy with? We had two big _fundamental_ problems this merge window: - untested code that clearly didn't do what it claimed it did, and which caused me to not even accept the main pull request - apparmor code that had a regression, where it took three weeks for that regression to be escalated to me simply because the developer was denying the regression. Tell me why I *shouldn't* be unhappy with the security layer? I shouldn't be in the situation where I start reviewing the code and go "that can't be right". And I *definitely* shouldn't be in the situation where I need to come in three weeks later and tell people what a regression is! Linus