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To: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" Cc: Nhat Pham , Baoquan He , Kairui Song , Johannes Weiner , Michal Hocko , Roman Gushchin , Shakeel Butt , Yosry Ahmed , Muchun Song , Kemeng Shi , Barry Song , YoungJun Park , Chengming Zhou , "Lorenzo Stoakes (Oracle)" , "Liam R. Howlett" , "Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)" , Mike Rapoport , =?UTF-8?Q?Suren_Baghdasaryan=EF=BF=BC?= , Qi Zheng , Axel Rasmussen , Yuanchu Xie , Wei Xu , Rik van Riel , Gregory Price , Wenchao Hao , Jonathan Corbet , Hugh Dickins , Baolin Wang , Tejun Heo , =?UTF-8?Q?Michal_Koutn=C3=BD?= , Shuah Khan , Kunwu Chan , Meta kernel team , Linux Memory Management List , Linux Kernel Mailing List , linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, "open list:CONTROL GROUP - MEMORY RESOURCE CONTROLLER (MEMCG)" , Andrew Morton , Joshua Hahn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Oct 5, 2026 at 5:19=E2=80=AFAM David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote: > > On 9/22/26 15:38, Chris Li wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2026 at 8:56=E2=80=AFAM Nhat Pham w= rote: > >> > >> On Fri, Sep 18, 2026 at 11:50=E2=80=AFPM Chris Li = wrote: > >>> No that time slot is too late for Asia developers. I don't think we > >>> should use that time slot for swap alignment. > >>> > >>> We should find a time slot more friendly to Asia. > >> > >> Any time slot would have that kind of problem. We're spread out across > >> the globe. > >> > >> Let's just use a standardized time slot we have for MM alignment sessi= ons. > > > > There are more swap maintainers in Asia than in the US + Europe, at > > least based on the maintainer file. Please be more inclusive. If the > > alignment is done without key stakeholders, it miss the point. > > > > Sigh, we can't even align on a time slot. > > > > In that case, let's keep discussing on the mailing list. At least it > > is accessible to every one. > > Looking at the mailing list, that approach doesn't seem to work. > > Finding a time slot that makes US, Europe and Asia happy is ... tricky. > > 1 AM is certainly unpleasant. > > US vs. Asia is also tricky, but doable. > > China 8AM vs. US West Coast 5PM? > > China 9AM vs. US West Coast 6PM? Hi David, Thanks for organizing this. Time slot that works for Baoquan and Kairui should also work for me. Hi Kairui, I understand that you have some face-to-face discussions at the conference. Do we have a list of what has been aligned and what is pending to discuss? We should have an agenda to avoid repeating already aligned items. Chris