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From: Andy Shevchenko <andy.shevchenko@gmail.com>
To: Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@linaro.org>
Cc: Colin Ian King <colin.i.king@gmail.com>,
	Andy Shevchenko <andy@kernel.org>,
	 Hans de Goede <hansg@kernel.org>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	 Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>,
	 Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org,  linux-staging@lists.linux.dev,
	kernel-janitors@vger.kernel.org,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH][next] media: atomisp: Fix incorrect snprintf format specifiers for signed integers
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2025 11:59:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHp75VeHvGkPf_OHDNfB3aQ-196HHP0hddnPS6DVJsBsiBAMdg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <934c7ffa-1386-45a0-a4e7-f2b93cca6370@suswa.mountain>

On Sat, Aug 2, 2025 at 11:02 AM Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@linaro.org> wrote:
>
> On Sat, Aug 02, 2025 at 10:45:49AM +0200, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> > On Sat, Aug 2, 2025 at 9:32 AM Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@linaro.org> wrote:
> > > On Fri, Aug 01, 2025 at 11:57:43PM +0200, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Aug 1, 2025 at 6:01 PM Colin Ian King <colin.i.king@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > There are incorrect %u format specifiers being used to for signed integers,
> > > > > fix this by using %d instead.
> > > >
> > > > Both of them sound to me like the fix of the symptom and not the
> > > > cause. Can we simply make types of the iterators to be unsigned
> > > > instead?
> > >
> > > Making iterator unsigned by default only increases the rate of bugs.
> >
> > How? Please, make sure this is relevant to this case.
>
> You're suggesting that he should change:
>
> -       int i, j;
> +       unsigned int i, j;
>
> It's just bad advice.

I disagree with this statement. The code varies and in some cases it
should be negative, but those cases are not these one, or you are
talking about _this_ case? If you are talking in general, again I
fully disagree with your statement. One needs to use a common sense.

>  Making iterators unsigned makes the code less
> safe.  It leads underflow bugs when we do subtraction:
>
>         for (i = num - 1; i < limit; i++) {
>
> Now i starts at UINT_MAX.  Which I guess is fine in this example...

Depends on the num semantics. The main what one needs is a common sense.

> But it also leads to endless loops in the error handling:
>
>         while (i-- >= 0) {

How? Error handling usually takes i > 0. Bad example, try harder.

>
> Making iterators unsigned is a bad habbit

True when use in conjunction with the same statement for signed cases:
"Making iterators signed is a bad habit"

> and it's bad advice in terms
> of the data that we have with regards to bugs.

Disagree. Bugs are common because people do not understand the C
language and its integer rules, wrap-arounds, etc. I believe in many
cases using signed iterators "fix" the bugs due to other variables
also being signed instead of both being unsigned.

-- 
With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko

      reply	other threads:[~2025-08-02 10:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-01 16:00 Colin Ian King
2025-08-01 21:57 ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-08-02  7:32   ` Dan Carpenter
2025-08-02  8:45     ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-08-02  9:02       ` Dan Carpenter
2025-08-02  9:59         ` Andy Shevchenko [this message]

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