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From: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Xiongfeng Wang <wangxiongfeng2@huawei.com>,
	vschneid@redhat.com, Phil Auld <pauld@redhat.com>,
	vdonnefort@google.com,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Wei Li <liwei391@huawei.com>, "liaoyu (E)" <liaoyu15@huawei.com>,
	zhangqiao22@huawei.com, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Question] report a race condition between CPU hotplug state machine and hrtimer 'sched_cfs_period_timer' for cfs bandwidth throttling
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 14:35:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKfTPtAzTy4KPrBNRA4cMeTonxn5EKLEAg0b9iH5ecJkAMEStw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <875y774wvp.ffs@tglx>

On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 at 14:03, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jun 27 2023 at 18:46, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> > On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 at 10:23, Xiongfeng Wang <wangxiongfeng2@huawei.com> wrote:
> >> > diff --cc kernel/sched/fair.c
> >> > index d9d6519fae01,bd6624353608..000000000000
> >> > --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> >> > +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> >> > @@@ -5411,10 -5411,16 +5411,15 @@@ void start_cfs_bandwidth(struct cfs_ban
> >> >   {
> >> >         lockdep_assert_held(&cfs_b->lock);
> >> >
> >> > -       if (cfs_b->period_active)
> >> > +       if (cfs_b->period_active) {
> >> > +               struct hrtimer_clock_base *clock_base = cfs_b->period_timer.base;
> >> > +               int cpu = clock_base->cpu_base->cpu;
> >> > +               if (!cpu_active(cpu) && cpu != smp_processor_id())
> >> > +                       hrtimer_start_expires(&cfs_b->period_timer,
> >> > HRTIMER_MODE_ABS_PINNED);
> >> >                 return;
> >> > +       }
> >
> > I have been able to reproduce your problem and run your fix on top. I
> > still wonder if there is a
> > Could we have a helper from hrtimer to get the cpu of the clock_base ?
>
> No, because this is fundamentally wrong.
>
> If the CPU is on the way out, then the scheduler hotplug machinery
> has to handle the period timer so that the problem Xiongfeng analyzed
> does not happen in the first place.

But the hrtimer was enqueued before it starts to offline the cpu
Then, hrtimers_dead_cpu should take care of migrating the hrtimer out
of the outgoing cpu but :
- it must run on another target cpu to migrate the hrtimer.
- it runs in the context of the caller which can be throttled.

>
> sched_cpu_wait_empty() would be the obvious place to cleanup armed CFS
> timers, but let me look into whether we can migrate hrtimers early in
> general.

but for that we must check if the timer is enqueued on the outgoing
cpu and we then need to choose a target cpu

>
> Aside of that the above is wrong by itself.
>
>         if (cfs_b->period_active)
>                 hrtimer_start_expires(&cfs_b->period_timer, HRTIMER_MODE_ABS_PINNED);
>
> This only ends up on the outgoing CPU if either:
>
>    1) The code runs on the outgoing CPU
>
> or
>
>    2) The hrtimer is concurrently executing the hrtimer callback on the
>       outgoing CPU.
>
> So this:
>
>         if (cfs_b->period_active) {
>                 struct hrtimer_clock_base *clock_base = cfs_b->period_timer.base;
>                 int cpu = clock_base->cpu_base->cpu;
>
>                 if (!cpu_active(cpu) && cpu != smp_processor_id())
>                         hrtimer_start_expires(&cfs_b->period_timer, HRTIMER_MODE_ABS_PINNED);
>               return;
>       }
>
> only works, if
>
>   1) The code runs _not_ on the outgoing CPU
>
> and
>
>   2) The hrtimer is _not_ concurrently executing the hrtimer callback on
>      the outgoing CPU.
>
>      If the callback is executing (it spins on cfs_b->lock), then the
>      timer is requeued on the outgoing CPU. Not what you want, right?
>
> Plus accessing hrtimer->clock_base->cpu_base->cpu lockless is fragile at
> best.
>
> Thanks,
>
>         tglx

  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-28 12:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-09 11:24 Xiongfeng Wang
2023-06-09 14:55 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-12 12:49   ` Xiongfeng Wang
2023-06-26  8:23     ` Xiongfeng Wang
2023-06-27 16:46       ` Vincent Guittot
2023-06-28 12:03         ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-28 12:35           ` Vincent Guittot [this message]
2023-06-28 22:01             ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-29  1:41               ` Xiongfeng Wang
2023-06-29  8:30               ` Vincent Guittot
2023-08-22  8:58                 ` Xiongfeng Wang
2023-08-23 10:14                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-08-24  7:25                   ` Yu Liao
2023-08-29  7:18                   ` Vincent Guittot
2023-06-28 13:30         ` Vincent Guittot
2023-06-28 21:09           ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-29  1:26         ` Xiongfeng Wang
2023-06-29  8:33           ` Vincent Guittot
2023-08-30 10:29 ` [tip: smp/urgent] cpu/hotplug: Prevent self deadlock on CPU hot-unplug tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner

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