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From: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
To: Kayra Cizmeci <kayracizmeci@gmail.com>
Cc: arighi@nvidia.com, bsegall@google.com, changwoo@igalia.com,
	 christian.loehle@arm.com, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
	juri.lelli@redhat.com,  kprateek.nayak@amd.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,  linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	lukasz.luba@arm.com, mgorman@suse.de,  mingo@redhat.com,
	peterz@infradead.org, pierre.gondois@arm.com,
	 qyousef@layalina.io, rafael@kernel.org, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	 sched-ext@lists.linux.dev, sshegde@linux.ibm.com, tj@kernel.org,
	 void@manifault.com, vschneid@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 14/18 v2] sched/fair: Enable push task for preempt short
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2026 16:07:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKfTPtCwv5f1D0uDqa2vePcYzavgut1W1Mab7pz3o7a1vTYO9w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261009111627.4861-1-kayracizmeci@gmail.com>

On Fri, 9 Oct 2026 at 13:16, Kayra Cizmeci <kayracizmeci@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Enable push mecanism for the preempt short feature which is the
> > 1st feature using it.
>
> IDK typo count of 'mecanism'. It would be cool if I counted the typos I found in this thread.
> They're so important. But, I didn't counted them
>
> > @@ -3475,6 +3475,9 @@ static void partition_sched_domains_locked(int ndoms_new, cpumask_var_t doms_new
> >       sched_energy_set(has_eas);
> >  #endif
> >
> > +     if (sched_feat(PREEMPT_SHORT))
> > +             static_branch_inc_cpuslocked(&sched_push_task);
> > +
>
> Well, as I checked it seems like first user of the push 'mecanism' can't be disabled.
> This could be the correct behavior too tho? If we want to open it and do not let it
> close even when PREEMPT_SHORT is false...

I didn't want to make the push mechanism enabled by default but only
when something uses it. Short slice tasks are the 1st user.

I wanted to keep a simple way to disable it at boot when it isn't used.

>
> But I think you wanted to connect this to PREEMPT_SHORT, no?
> Well if no, then well I have no words. If yes, I have.
>
> I done a quick test, adding this line to here:
>
>         if (sched_feat(PREEMPT_SHORT))
>                 static_branch_inc_cpuslocked(&sched_push_task);
>        pr_info("push key count=%d\n", static_key_count(&sched_push_task.key)); <--- This
>
> And booting up the kernel. Playing with CPU1's online status and closing PREEMPT_SHORT.
> And...
>
> [    0.967146] push key count=1
> 0
> 1
> [    0.967146] push key count=1
> [   42.408439] push key count=2
> [   42.475103] push key count=3
> NO_PREEMPT_SHORT
> 0
> 1
> [    0.967146] push key count=1
> [   42.408439] push key count=2
> [   42.475103] push key count=3
> [   42.562426] push key count=3
> [   42.619255] push key count=3

This should not happen. I will fix it


>
> This is a bit messy since it's raw, but as you can see even when we
> close PREEMPT_SHORT this not decreases. It just stays on and grows over time.
>
> That's what I'll say, maybe I'm missing something.
>
> Thanks,
> Kayra

  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-09 14:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-02 15:43 [PATCH 00/18 v2] Improving latency of short slice tasks Vincent Guittot
2026-10-02 15:43 ` [PATCH 01/18 v2] sched/eevdf: Decay positive lag of sleeping entities Vincent Guittot
2026-10-02 15:43 ` [PATCH 02/18] sched/eevdf: Reset lag when waking up on idle cpu Vincent Guittot
2026-10-04 17:30   ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-10-09 13:35     ` Vincent Guittot
2026-10-02 15:44 ` [PATCH 03/18 v2] sched/eevdf: Add per cpu cached min_slice Vincent Guittot
2026-10-02 15:44 ` [PATCH 04/18 v2] sched/eevdf: Compare min slice during wake_affine Vincent Guittot
2026-10-05 15:58   ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-10-02 15:44 ` [PATCH 05/18 v2] sched/eevdf: Add min slice check when selecting CPU Vincent Guittot
2026-10-04 19:18   ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-10-02 15:44 ` [PATCH 06/18 v2] sched/fair: Prepare select_task_rq_fair() to be called for new cases Vincent Guittot
2026-10-06 22:25   ` Tim Chen
2026-10-09 13:36     ` Vincent Guittot
2026-10-02 15:44 ` [PATCH 07/18] sched/fair: Add push task mechanism for fair Vincent Guittot
2026-10-07  2:45   ` Chen Yu
2026-10-09 13:38     ` Vincent Guittot
2026-10-09 14:31     ` Vincent Guittot
2026-10-10 15:42       ` Chen Yu
2026-10-12  9:18         ` Vincent Guittot
2026-10-13  5:17           ` Chen Yu
2026-10-14  7:20             ` Vincent Guittot
2026-10-12 14:06   ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-10-14  7:19     ` Vincent Guittot
2026-10-14 15:37     ` Vincent Guittot
2026-10-14 16:28       ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-10-15  8:02         ` Vincent Guittot
2026-10-18  6:57   ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-10-02 15:44 ` [PATCH 08/18] sched/fair: Optimize " Vincent Guittot
2026-10-02 15:44 ` [PATCH 09/18 v2] sched/core: Add rq flag to tick parameters Vincent Guittot
2026-10-02 15:44 ` [PATCH 10/18 v2] sched/fair: Add force push task mechanism for fair Vincent Guittot
2026-10-06 19:24   ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-10-09 14:01     ` Vincent Guittot
2026-10-09  5:53   ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-10-09 14:04     ` Vincent Guittot
2026-10-09 14:47       ` Vincent Guittot
2026-10-11 17:40         ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-10-12  8:18           ` Vincent Guittot
2026-10-12 13:40             ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-10-02 15:44 ` [PATCH 11/18 v2] sched/fair: Support not wakeup case in select_idle_sibling Vincent Guittot
2026-10-07 17:55   ` Tim Chen
2026-10-09 14:06     ` Vincent Guittot
2026-10-02 15:44 ` [PATCH 12/18 v2] sched/eevdf: Try to push short slice task on a better CPU Vincent Guittot
2026-10-02 15:44 ` [PATCH 13/18 v2] sched/eevdf: Push short slice task that are not picked Vincent Guittot
2026-10-02 15:44 ` [PATCH 14/18 v2] sched/fair: Enable push task for preempt short Vincent Guittot
2026-10-09 11:16   ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-10-09 14:07     ` Vincent Guittot [this message]
2026-10-02 15:44 ` [PATCH 15/18 v2] energy model: Add a get previous state function Vincent Guittot
2026-10-02 15:44 ` [PATCH 16/18 v2] sched/fair: Rework feec() to use cost instead of spare capacity Vincent Guittot
2026-10-02 15:44 ` [PATCH 17/18 v2] energy model: Remove unused em_cpu_energy() Vincent Guittot
2026-10-02 15:44 ` [PATCH 18/18 v2] sched/fair: Take into account slice in EAS Vincent Guittot
2026-10-07 14:36   ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-10-08 22:53   ` Tim Chen
2026-10-09  6:31     ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-10-09 14:17     ` Vincent Guittot
2026-10-08 19:12 ` [PATCH 00/18 v2] Improving latency of short slice tasks Kayra Cizmeci
2026-10-09 14:56   ` Vincent Guittot

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