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From: Huan Nguyen <nhuhuan@google.com>
To: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>
Cc: tglx@kernel.org, mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 0/3] mm: use non-temporal stores for demotion
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2026 15:06:23 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALwWd5vAtSSuFoex37AzDBcK0RaBP3fbbst_fy9BGBQ5jr-K1g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7CF5AD15-B833-44E1-A9FE-C8E12F8C9E82@nvidia.com>

On Tue, Nov 3, 2026 at 4:09 PM Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com> wrote:
>
> On 3 Nov 2026, at 17:30, Huan Nguyen wrote:
>
> > This series continues the non-temporal demotion work originally posted
> > by Yiannis Nikolakopoulos [1].
> >
> > Motivation
> > ==========
> > Memory tier demotion moves cold folios from local DRAM to slower memory
> > tiers, such as CXL or remote NUMA nodes. Standard store instructions
> > force the CPU to allocate cache lines for cold data that is unlikely to
> > be referenced in the near term.
> >
> > Using non-temporal stores and prefetching on x86 bypasses CPU cache
> > allocation, protecting active workload working sets and improving
> > demotion throughput.
> >
> > Changes in v3
> > =============
> > - Unified MCE-safe NT copy (addressing v2 Open #1):
> >   Implement copy_mc_page_nt() in x86 assembly to provide machine-check
> >   safe copying using non-temporal stores (movnti) and prefetchnta.
> >
> > - Architecture abstraction (addressing v2 Open #2):
> >   v2 relied on memcpy_flushcache(), which lacks non-temporal stores on
> >   architectures like arm64. RFC v3 replaces this with a dedicated
> >   __HAVE_ARCH_COPY_PAGE_NT interface and generic fallback, enabling
> >   architectures to plug in native non-temporal routines independently.
> >
> > - Memory ordering:
> >   Add a wmb() barrier at the end of folio_mc_copy_nt() to ensure weakly
> >   ordered non-temporal stores are drained before page tables are updated.
> >
> > Discussions
> > ===========
> > 1. Migration mode vs. migration control refactoring:
> >    Currently, this series introduces MIGRATE_ASYNC_NONTEMPORAL into
> >    enum migrate_mode. In parallel, Shivank Garg's migration refactoring
> >    series [2] consolidates migration arguments into migrate_control.
> >    Once that lands, demotion can simply rely on the migration reason
> >    instead of adding a dedicated migration mode and helper.
>
> If that is the ultimate goal, why not do it in this series to avoid
> code churn? You probably can coordinate with Shivank on how to move
> the migration control refactoring code to this series.

Thanks for the suggestion. I reached out to Shivank and we are
coordinating on this.

Best,
Huan

  reply	other threads:[~2026-11-12 23:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-30 15:02 [PATCH RFC v2 0/3] Demote to lower tier using non-temporal stores Yiannis Nikolakopoulos
2026-07-30 15:02 ` [PATCH RFC v2 1/3] mm, x86: support copying a folio " Yiannis Nikolakopoulos
2026-07-31 21:53   ` Huan Nguyen
2026-08-17 16:34     ` Garg, Shivank
2026-07-30 15:02 ` [PATCH RFC v2 2/3] mm: new migrate_mode flag for async " Yiannis Nikolakopoulos
2026-08-05 14:14   ` Huang, Ying
2026-07-30 15:02 ` [PATCH RFC v2 3/3] mm: use non-temporal stores for demotion Yiannis Nikolakopoulos
2026-07-30 17:30 ` [PATCH RFC v2 0/3] Demote to lower tier using non-temporal stores Gregory Price
2026-07-30 17:40   ` Frank van der Linden
2026-07-30 18:08     ` Johannes Weiner
2026-07-30 20:49       ` Gregory Price
2026-11-03 22:30 ` [RFC PATCH v3 0/3] mm: use non-temporal stores for demotion Huan Nguyen
2026-11-03 22:30   ` [RFC PATCH v3 1/3] mm, x86: support copying a folio using non-temporal stores Huan Nguyen
2026-11-03 22:30   ` [RFC PATCH v3 2/3] mm/migrate: introduce async non-temporal migration mode Huan Nguyen
2026-11-03 22:30   ` [RFC PATCH v3 3/3] mm/vmscan: demote folios using non-temporal stores Huan Nguyen
2026-11-04  0:09   ` [RFC PATCH v3 0/3] mm: use non-temporal stores for demotion Zi Yan
2026-11-12 23:06     ` Huan Nguyen [this message]
2026-11-04  9:07   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-11-06  8:50   ` Li Zhe
2026-11-12 22:58     ` Huan Nguyen

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