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From: Kairui Song <ryncsn@gmail.com>
To: "Barry Song (Xiaomi)" <baohua@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 00/17] mm/mglru: frequency guided promotion (MGLRU-FG) and flag cleanup
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2026 19:43:19 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMgjq7AtuK22FsuqvGRLVZ2eWrp-N4qQ_MHoXsXDkVBprekdDA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261016084256.12955-1-baohua@kernel.org>

On Fri, Oct 16, 2026 at 4:43 PM Barry Song (Xiaomi) <baohua@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2026 at 2:15 AM Kairui Song via B4 Relay <devnull+kasong.tencent.com@kernel.org> wrote:
> [...]
> >
> > LevelDB Scan/Get
> > ================
> > I also retested the LevelDB benchmark from the cache_ext paper [5].
> > Interestingly, mainline MGLRU already beats CLRU on this one after a
> > recent change in lru_gen_folio_seq that bumps new folios with refs == 1
> > to the second-oldest generation as discussed. That change accidentally
> > gave random reads a higher hotness level while making sequential reads
> > much colder as described before [14]. However it's unreliable and
> > incorrect because it depends on LRU drain timing, and hurts some workloads
> > as reported, or where the sequential part is actually hotter (any workload
> > involving hotter large file and many small cold files will be affected)
> > which is reproduced below.
> >
> > This series improves it while covering ordinary workloads too and should
> > fix regressions:
> >
> > LevelDB Scan / Get, Throughput Total:
> > CLRU:         4708.3 ops/s
> > MGLRU:        5026.9 ops/s (faster than CLRU, but hurts other workloads)
> > MGLRU After:  5179.2 ops/s (even better in all cases, and no regression)
> >
> > The hot-sequential and cold-random workload can be easily reproduced with
> > SQLite and grep. SQLite continuously scans and looks up a small hot
> > portion of a DB file, while grep iterates over a set of small files much
> > larger than RAM [6]:
> >
> >          SQLite scan & lookup time:       Grep iterate time:
> > CLRU:                       14.51ms               13281.37ms
> > MGLRU mainline:            567.05ms               13694.47ms
> > MGLRU After this series:    10.58ms               12930.43ms
> >
>
> Thanks, Kairui. I'll do a thorough review of the whole patchset over
> the next two weeks.
>
> BTW, do you think we need a quick fix patch like the one below
> for the above problem before this patchset, so that it can be
> backported to stable? I assume your patchset is too large to
> backport?

Hi Barry,

Good question, I think we can patch it first.

> From f9683205d2ab6e3b185022d7d5af3496dfe5f35f Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: "Barry Song (Xiaomi)" <baohua@kernel.org>
> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2026 11:48:06 +0800
> Subject: [PATCH] mm/mglru: fix using folio_mark_accessed to replace
>  folio_set_active
>
> Commit 6cbdd9726fb5 ("mm/mglru: use folio_mark_accessed to
> replace folio_set_active") tried to avoid over-protecting
> fault-around read-ahead file folios by placing them in the
> second-oldest generation instead of the youngest generations.
>
> However, it abuses `PG_referenced` on read-ahead file folios
> for this purpose, potentially coupling their handling with
> normal syscall-based file accesses that also use
> `PG_referenced`.
>
> This could regress some workloads, as reported by Kairui Song[1]
> and Ehab Ababneh[2]. Many thanks to both for reporting these
> issues!
>
> The long-term fix is Kairui's MGLRU-FG, but in the meantime,
> we also need a quick fix that can be backported to stable.
>
> This patch reverts all of the original commit's behavior that
> abuses `PG_referenced`, while preserving the semantics of
> avoiding over-protection of fault-around read-ahead file
> folios by adjusting only `lru_gen_folio_seq()`.
> Specifically, fault-around read-ahead file folios with
> `PG_active` set but `PG_workingset` clear are placed in the
> second-oldest generation.
> Activated file folios and refaulted workingset file folios
> are still placed in the youngest generations.
>
> Build kernel cases in a memcg shows it not only perserve
> the benefit of original patch, but also even improve
> performance further.
>
> w/o fix:
>
> real    1m49.094s
> user    25m31.484s
> sys     3m40.959s
> pswpin: 662112
> pswpout: 2504415
> pgpgin: 4424336
> pgpgout: 10355273
> refault_file: 359626
> refault_anon: 670724
>
> w/ fix:
>
> real    1m48.913s
> user    25m31.639s
> sys     3m30.875s
> pswpin: 689815
> pswpout: 2689894
> pgpgin: 4422659
> pgpgout: 11043464
> refault_file: 326566
> refault_anon: 697138
>
> Revert original patch:
>
> real    1m50.044s
> user    25m37.137s
> sys     4m4.493s
> pswpin: 1349087
> pswpout: 4317933
> pgpgin: 7083597
> pgpgout: 17602735
> refault_file: 337676
> refault_anon: 1368542
>
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20261003-mglru-fg-v3-0-cbd4546a5bd9@tencent.com/
> [2] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20260901180704.168106-1-ehab.ababneh@intel.com/
> Fixes: 6cbdd9726fb5 ("mm/mglru: use folio_mark_accessed to replace folio_set_active")
> Cc: <stable@vger.kernel.org>
> Signed-off-by: Barry Song (Xiaomi) <baohua@kernel.org>
> ---
>  include/linux/mm_inline.h |  8 +++++---
>  mm/folio.c                | 16 +++-------------
>  mm/vmscan.c               |  9 ++-------
>  mm/workingset.c           | 10 ++++------
>  4 files changed, 14 insertions(+), 29 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/include/linux/mm_inline.h b/include/linux/mm_inline.h
> index ab69b9930893..7aaff4e06e80 100644
> --- a/include/linux/mm_inline.h
> +++ b/include/linux/mm_inline.h
> @@ -311,7 +311,8 @@ static inline unsigned long lru_gen_folio_seq(const struct lruvec *lruvec,
>          * | Accessed through page tables and  | Accessed through file descriptors |
>          * | promoted by folio_update_gen()    | and protected by folio_inc_gen()  |
>          * +-----------------------------------+-----------------------------------+
> -        * | PG_active (set while isolated)    |                                   |
> +        * | PG_active (set while isolated)    | PG_active (files|                 |
> +        * |                                   | fault-readahead)|                 |

This comment is not correct I think, faulting file folios are not
access through fd, we may just better leave it uncommented.

>          * +-----------------+-----------------+-----------------+-----------------+
>          * |  PG_workingset  |  PG_referenced  |  PG_workingset  |  LRU_REFS_FLAGS |
>          * +-----------------------------------+-----------------------------------+
> @@ -319,7 +320,8 @@ static inline unsigned long lru_gen_folio_seq(const struct lruvec *lruvec,
>          * |<---------------------------- MAX_NR_GENS ---------------------------->|
>          */
>         if (folio_test_active(folio))
> -               gen = MIN_NR_GENS - folio_test_workingset(folio);
> +               gen = MIN_NR_GENS - folio_test_workingset(folio) +
> +                     (type ? !folio_test_workingset(folio) : 0);

This looks a bit hard to follow. Does it mean that for active but
non-workingset files, they are put into the third newest generation?
It creates more divergence of file / anon but if it work for now, I'm
fine with it.

>         else if (reclaiming)
>                 gen = MAX_NR_GENS;
>         else if ((!folio_is_file_lru(folio) && !folio_test_swapcache(folio)) ||
> @@ -327,7 +329,7 @@ static inline unsigned long lru_gen_folio_seq(const struct lruvec *lruvec,
>                   (folio_test_dirty(folio) || folio_test_writeback(folio))))
>                 gen = MIN_NR_GENS;
>         else
> -               gen = MAX_NR_GENS - (folio_test_workingset(folio) || folio_test_referenced(folio));
> +               gen = MAX_NR_GENS - folio_test_workingset(folio);

This is a nice change, but meanwhile the LevelDB and cerain workload
gain are gone too, we will again have a ~40% regression for similiar
workloads, I just double checked it. But that's fine, though, it was
never meant to be optimized that way, and the long-term fix can be
done later.

A quick test on another of my test machine using Tal's LevelDB test case:

CLRU: 3098 ops/s
MGLRU mainline: 3035 ops/s
MGLRU-FG: 3233 ops/s
MGLRU with this patch: 2194 ops/sec (should be same result with
reverting 6cbdd9726fb5)

>
>         return max(READ_ONCE(lrugen->max_seq) - gen + 1, READ_ONCE(lrugen->min_seq[type]));
>  }
> diff --git a/mm/folio.c b/mm/folio.c
> index 35e242b48870..2af724cecb31 100644
> --- a/mm/folio.c
> +++ b/mm/folio.c
> @@ -474,20 +474,10 @@ void folio_add_lru(struct folio *folio)
>                         folio_test_unevictable(folio), folio);
>         VM_BUG_ON_FOLIO(folio_test_lru(folio), folio);
>
> -       /*
> -        * For refaulted workingset folios, set PG_active so they
> -        * can be added to active generations.
> -        * For prefaulted file folios, folio_mark_accessed() sets
> -        * PG_referenced so lru_gen_folio_seq() places them into
> -        * the second oldest generation.
> -        */
> +       /* see the comment in lru_gen_folio_seq() */
>         if (lru_gen_enabled() && !folio_test_unevictable(folio) &&
> -           lru_gen_in_fault() && !(current->flags & PF_MEMALLOC)) {
> -               if (folio_test_workingset(folio))
> -                       folio_set_active(folio);
> -               else if (!folio_test_referenced(folio))
> -                       folio_mark_accessed(folio);
> -       }
> +           lru_gen_in_fault() && !(current->flags & PF_MEMALLOC))
> +               folio_set_active(folio);
>
>         folio_batch_add_and_move(folio, lru_add);
>  }
> diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
> index daa7e37c2236..e82ba737c028 100644
> --- a/mm/vmscan.c
> +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
> @@ -952,13 +952,8 @@ static bool lru_gen_set_refs(struct folio *folio, const vma_flags_t *vma_flags)
>                 return false;
>         }
>
> -       /* Promote on second access */
> -       if (folio_lru_refs(folio) > 1) {
> -               folio_set_workingset(folio);
> -               folio_set_lru_refs(folio, 0);
> -       } else {
> -               folio_mark_accessed(folio);
> -       }
> +       folio_set_workingset(folio);
> +       folio_set_lru_refs(folio, 0);
>         return true;
>  }
>  #else
> diff --git a/mm/workingset.c b/mm/workingset.c
> index 1504f91cdca5..10d4ce202cca 100644
> --- a/mm/workingset.c
> +++ b/mm/workingset.c
> @@ -319,13 +319,11 @@ static void lru_gen_refault(struct folio *folio, void *shadow)
>
>         atomic_long_add(delta, &lrugen->refaulted[hist][type][tier]);
>
> +       /* see folio_add_lru() where folio_set_active() will be called */
> +       if (lru_gen_in_fault())
> +               mod_lruvec_state(lruvec, WORKINGSET_ACTIVATE_BASE + type, delta);
> +
>         if (workingset) {
> -               /*
> -                * see folio_add_lru(), where folio_set_active() is
> -                * called for workingset folios
> -                */
> -               if (lru_gen_in_fault())
> -                       mod_lruvec_state(lruvec, WORKINGSET_ACTIVATE_BASE + type, delta);
>                 folio_set_workingset(folio);
>                 mod_lruvec_state(lruvec, WORKINGSET_RESTORE_BASE + type, delta);
>         } else
> --
> 2.34.1
>

The rest most looks clean to me.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-16 11:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-15 18:15 Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 18:15 ` [PATCH v4 01/17] mm/memcontrol: allow update of LRU statistic without holding LRU lock Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 18:15 ` [PATCH v4 02/17] mm/mglru: make generation page counters atomic Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 18:15 ` [PATCH v4 03/17] mm/memcg: add folio-based lruvec live helper Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 19:11   ` Harry Yoo
2026-10-16  6:15     ` Kairui Song
2026-10-19 13:46       ` Harry Yoo
2026-10-19 14:14         ` Harry Yoo
2026-10-16  7:39   ` Muchun Song
2026-10-16  7:54     ` Kairui Song
2026-10-16  9:09       ` Muchun Song
2026-10-15 18:15 ` [PATCH v4 04/17] mm/mglru: frequency guided workingset promotion (MGLRU-FG) Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-19 10:10   ` Barry Song
2026-10-19 12:08     ` Kairui Song
2026-10-26 22:34       ` Barry Song
2026-10-15 18:15 ` [PATCH v4 05/17] mm/mglru: make folio lru referenced times count a generic API Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 18:15 ` [PATCH v4 06/17] mm/mglru: move add/del LRU size accounting out of lru_gen_update_size() Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 18:15 ` [PATCH v4 07/17] mm/mglru, gup: mark folios referenced via a fast helper Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 18:15 ` [PATCH v4 08/17] mm/mglru, smaps: convert to LRU refs based operations for MGLRU Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 18:15 ` [PATCH v4 09/17] mm/damon: " Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 18:15 ` [PATCH v4 10/17] mm/khugepaged: " Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 18:16 ` [PATCH v4 11/17] mm/madvise: adapt for " Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 18:16 ` [PATCH v4 12/17] mm/huge_memory: mark folio as accessed more accurately on split Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 18:16 ` [PATCH v4 13/17] mm/mglru: folio LRU refs based active/inactive number accounting Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 18:16 ` [PATCH v4 14/17] mm/mglru: reparent folios from all generations Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 18:16 ` [PATCH v4 15/17] mm/mglru: make folio_inc_lru_refs lruvec lockless Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 18:16 ` [PATCH v4 16/17] mm/mglru: make folio_test_workingset() work based on folio LRU refs Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 18:16 ` [PATCH v4 17/17] Documentation/mm: multi-gen LRU: update for frequency guided promotion Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-10-16  8:42 ` [PATCH v4 00/17] mm/mglru: frequency guided promotion (MGLRU-FG) and flag cleanup Barry Song (Xiaomi)
2026-10-16 11:43   ` Kairui Song [this message]
2026-10-16 12:11     ` Kairui Song
2026-10-20 20:47     ` Barry Song

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