From: John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>
To: Haakon Bugge <haakon.bugge@oracle.com>
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Boqun Feng <boqun@kernel.org>, Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] test-ww_mutex: Retry lock acquisition after timeout if deadlocked
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2026 13:01:45 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANDhNCopM9dAzn7kwM0wbpkZDGdOtHHRMLAMmbn7+6kXRmAz-A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DAD9FFD8-9265-4E33-A206-8A80F520C35C@oracle.com>
On Mon, Jun 22, 2026 at 6:48 AM Haakon Bugge <haakon.bugge@oracle.com> wrote:
> > On 18 Jun 2026, at 20:55, John Stultz <jstultz@google.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2026 at 5:13 AM Håkon Bugge <haakon.bugge@oracle.com> wrote:
>
> >> stress_inorder_work() terminates when its timeout expires. If the
> >> final lock acquisition attempt returns -EDEADLK at that point, the
> >> test may report a false failure even though the deadlock would have
> >> been resolved shortly thereafter. Retry a limited number of times
> >> after timeout before reporting failure.
> >>
> >> Without this commit, we may see in the log:
> >>
> >> Beginning ww (wound) mutex selftests
> >> stress (stress_inorder_work) failed with -35
> >>
> >> Fixes: cfa92b6d5207 ("locking/ww_mutex/test: Make sure we bail out instead of livelock")
> >> Signed-off-by: Håkon Bugge <haakon.bugge@oracle.com>
> >> ---
> >> kernel/locking/test-ww_mutex.c | 3 ++-
> >> 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >>
> >> diff --git a/kernel/locking/test-ww_mutex.c b/kernel/locking/test-ww_mutex.c
> >> index 6b29a7a8f5fba..95de03179eac0 100644
> >> --- a/kernel/locking/test-ww_mutex.c
> >> +++ b/kernel/locking/test-ww_mutex.c
> >> @@ -444,6 +444,7 @@ static void stress_inorder_work(struct work_struct *work)
> >> struct ww_acquire_ctx ctx;
> >> int *order;
> >> int err;
> >> + int attempts_after_tmout = 10000;
> >>
> >> stress->result = -ENOMEM;
> >>
> >> @@ -476,7 +477,7 @@ static void stress_inorder_work(struct work_struct *work)
> >> ww_mutex_unlock(&locks[order[n]]);
> >>
> >> if (err == -EDEADLK) {
> >> - if (!time_after(jiffies, stress->timeout)) {
> >> + if ((!time_after(jiffies, stress->timeout)) || attempts_after_tmout--) {
> >> ww_mutex_lock_slow(&locks[order[contended]], &ctx);
> >> goto retry;
> >> }
> >
> > Thanks for sending this out! I definitely have seen timeouts hit in my
> > previous testing. Though, the approach here of "trying harder after
> > the timeout" at first glance strikes me as like a procrastinator's
> > panic. :)
>
> Hehe, I think the undersigned is a good example of a procrastinator ;-)
>
> > It might be nice to have a bit more context in the commit message as
> > to the soundness of this approach.
>
> I wrote something about it the cover letter:
>
> <quote>
> It is worth mentioning that the last patch retries up to 10,000 lock
> acquisitions after timeout. This value was determined empirically: 10
> and 100 retries were insufficient on the test systems, while 10,000
> provided stable results and avoided false negatives.
> </quote>
>
> Shall I add that to the commit message?
That would be great.
> > If the deadlock resolution takes
> > longer then we expect in time,
>
> That is not the case. When we terminate due to timeout, we have no
> resolution of the deadlock. I view it as there is a probability we run
> into deadlock, let's say 10%, for each iteration. Now, if we terminate
> due to timeout - and - we are unlucky and the last iteration
> deadlocked, we cannot just return -EDEADLK, as that will mark the test
> as failed. Instead, we retry some more iterations in order to resolve
> the deadlock.
But with the retry count needing to be set to 10,000 it seems like
more then just being unlucky on the last iteration, no?
I'm still a bit wary on this change, but I am very eager to see these
occasional failures be sorted out, so thank you for your efforts here!
thanks
-john
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-07-08 20:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-17 12:13 [PATCH 0/4] test-ww_mutex: Miscellaneous fixes Håkon Bugge
2026-06-17 12:13 ` [PATCH 1/4] test-ww_mutex: Fix module cleanup Håkon Bugge
2026-06-18 17:49 ` John Stultz
2026-06-17 12:13 ` [PATCH 2/4] test-ww_mutex: Report errors from stress workers Håkon Bugge
2026-06-18 17:52 ` John Stultz
2026-07-09 0:03 ` John Stultz
2026-07-09 16:51 ` Haakon Bugge
2026-06-17 12:13 ` [PATCH 3/4] test-ww_mutex: Handle transient -EDEADLK in test_cycle_work Håkon Bugge
2026-06-18 19:04 ` John Stultz
2026-06-22 13:21 ` Haakon Bugge
2026-07-08 19:55 ` John Stultz
2026-07-09 17:05 ` Haakon Bugge
2026-06-17 12:13 ` [PATCH 4/4] test-ww_mutex: Retry lock acquisition after timeout if deadlocked Håkon Bugge
2026-06-18 18:55 ` John Stultz
2026-06-22 13:47 ` Haakon Bugge
2026-07-06 9:01 ` Haakon Bugge
2026-07-06 9:02 ` Haakon Bugge
2026-07-08 20:01 ` John Stultz [this message]
2026-07-09 16:56 ` Haakon Bugge
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