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From: Song Liu <songliubraving@fb.com>
To: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>
Cc: lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"peterz@infradead.org" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"ast@kernel.org" <ast@kernel.org>,
	"daniel@iogearbox.net" <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Kernel Team <Kernel-team@fb.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 perf, bpf-next 1/7] perf, bpf: Introduce PERF_RECORD_KSYMBOL
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2019 19:30:22 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CCB26BF8-9FF5-4BBF-84BE-878CF0D3882A@fb.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190110185524.GO22483@kernel.org>



> On Jan 10, 2019, at 10:55 AM, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org> wrote:
> 
> Em Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 06:40:37PM +0000, Song Liu escreveu:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 10, 2019, at 10:24 AM, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Em Wed, Jan 09, 2019 at 11:21:05AM -0800, Song Liu escreveu:
>>>> For better performance analysis of dynamically JITed and loaded kernel
>>>> functions, such as BPF programs, this patch introduces
>>>> PERF_RECORD_KSYMBOL, a new perf_event_type that exposes kernel symbol
>>>> register/unregister information to user space.
>>>> 
>>>> The following data structure is used for PERF_RECORD_KSYMBOL.
>>>> 
>>>>   /*
>>>>    * struct {
>>>>    *      struct perf_event_header        header;
>>>>    *      u64                             addr;
>>>>    *      u32                             len;
>>>>    *      u16                             ksym_type;
>>>>    *      u16                             flags;
>>>>    *      char                            name[];
>>>>    *      struct sample_id                sample_id;
>>>>    * };
>>>>    */
>>> 
>>> So, I couldn't find where this gets used, the intention here is just to
>>> add the interfaces and afterwards is that you will wire this up? I would
>>> like to test the whole shebang to see it working.
>> 
>> I guess you meant PERF_RECORD_BPF_EVENT not being used? 
>> 
>> PERF_RECORD_KSYMBOL is used by BPF in 3/7 and 5/7. I tested 
> 
> Oops, I didn't look at 3/7, just read its cset summary line and as it
> says:
> 
> Subject: [PATCH v6 perf, bpf-next 3/7] perf, bpf: introduce PERF_RECORD_BPF_EVENT
> 
> I didn't thought it was related, perhaps break it down into one that
> states that it is wiring up PERF_RECORD_KSYMBOL, and at that point we
> could just test it, getting the notifications for new kallsyms related
> to BPF?

Good idea! I will split it into two patches as:

[3/8] perf, bpf: generate PERF_RECORD_KSYMBOL for BPF program 
[4/8] perf, bpf: introduce PERF_RECORD_BPF_EVENT

> 
>> PERF_RECORD_BPF_EVENT with dump_trace. As we separate RECORD_KSYMBOL from
>> RECORD_BPF_EVENT, user space won't use BPF_EVENT until annotation support.  
> 
> Right, so why not just introduce PERF_RECORD_KSYMBOL, make it be used by
> tooling, etc, then move on to PERF_RECORD_BPF_EVENT?

I'd like to make sure we all agree on the new ABI for RECORD_KSYMBOL and 
RECORD_BPF_EVENT. Multiple user space tools dependent on RECORD_BPF_EVENT,
for example, bcc and auditing. Finalizing RECORD_BPF_EVENT will unblock the 
development of these tools. On perf side, it will take us quite some time 
to finish annotation. Ideally, I don't want to block the development of 
other tools for so long. 

Thanks,
Song



  reply	other threads:[~2019-01-10 19:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-09 19:21 [PATCH v6 perf, bpf-next 0/7] reveal invisible bpf programs Song Liu
2019-01-09 19:21 ` [PATCH v6 perf, bpf-next 1/7] perf, bpf: Introduce PERF_RECORD_KSYMBOL Song Liu
2019-01-10 18:24   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2019-01-10 18:40     ` Song Liu
2019-01-10 18:55       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2019-01-10 19:30         ` Song Liu [this message]
2019-01-10 19:45           ` Song Liu
2019-01-11  1:05             ` David Ahern
2019-01-10 19:52           ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2019-01-09 19:21 ` [PATCH v6 perf, bpf-next 2/7] sync tools/include/uapi/linux/perf_event.h Song Liu
2019-01-09 19:21 ` [PATCH v6 perf, bpf-next 3/7] perf, bpf: introduce PERF_RECORD_BPF_EVENT Song Liu
2019-01-10  3:06   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-01-09 19:21 ` [PATCH v6 perf, bpf-next 4/7] sync tools/include/uapi/linux/perf_event.h Song Liu
2019-01-09 19:21 ` [PATCH v6 perf, bpf-next 5/7] perf util: handle PERF_RECORD_KSYMBOL Song Liu
2019-01-09 19:21 ` [PATCH v6 perf, bpf-next 6/7] perf util: handle PERF_RECORD_BPF_EVENT Song Liu
2019-01-09 19:21 ` [PATCH v6 perf, bpf-next 7/7] perf tools: synthesize PERF_RECORD_* for loaded BPF programs Song Liu

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