From: Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>
To: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
Cc: Muchun Song <songmuchun@bytedance.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/17] mm/mm_init: skip initializing shared vmemmap tail pages
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2026 17:11:21 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <D8223E27-2585-429F-8031-49FA69367E3E@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <178409212283.638342.13179685803375053525.b4-review@b4>
> On Jul 15, 2026, at 13:08, Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org> wrote:
>
>> memmap_init_range() initializes every struct page in the target range.
>> For compound pages with vmemmap optimization, the tail struct pages are
>> backed by a shared vmemmap page.
>>
>> Initializing those tail struct pages would overwrite the shared
>> vmemmap page contents, so users such as HugeTLB have to open-code
>> follow-up handling to restore the metadata afterwards.
>>
>> Use the section's compound page order to detect struct pages that fall
>> into the shared tail vmemmap range and skip their initialization in
>> memmap_init_range(). Still initialize the pageblock migratetypes for
>> the skipped range so the surrounding setup remains intact.
>>
>> This is a preparatory change for consolidating handling across users of
>> vmemmap optimization, and it also avoids redundant initialization of
>> shared tail vmemmap pages during early boot.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Muchun Song <songmuchun@bytedance.com>
>>
>> diff --git a/include/linux/mmzone.h b/include/linux/mmzone.h
>> index ea884245f499..6fa6e7f0abf9 100644
>> --- a/include/linux/mmzone.h
>> +++ b/include/linux/mmzone.h
>> @@ -2375,6 +2375,10 @@ struct mem_section;
>>
>> #define sparse_vmemmap_init_nid_early(_nid) do {} while (0)
>> #define pfn_in_present_section pfn_valid
>> +static inline struct mem_section *__pfn_to_section(unsigned long pfn)
>> +{
>> + return NULL;
>> +}
>
> Changelog should mention why this is a part of the patch, it's really
> not obvious.
No problem.
>
>> #endif /* CONFIG_SPARSEMEM */
>>
>> #ifdef CONFIG_SPARSEMEM_VMEMMAP
>> diff --git a/mm/internal.h b/mm/internal.h
>> index 430aa72a4575..ebbab7421633 100644
>> --- a/mm/internal.h
>> +++ b/mm/internal.h
>> @@ -1002,10 +1002,26 @@ static inline void sparse_init(void) {}
>> */
>> #ifdef CONFIG_SPARSEMEM_VMEMMAP
>> void sparse_init_subsection_map(void);
>> +
>> +static inline bool page_vmemmap_optimizable(const struct page *page, unsigned int order)
>> +{
>> + const unsigned long pfn = page_to_pfn(page);
>> + const unsigned long nr_pages = 1UL << order;
>> +
>
> Don't you want to gate it on HUGETLB_PAGE_OPTIMIZE_VMEMMAP_DEFAULT_ON?
You mean HUGETLB_PAGE_OPTIMIZE_VMEMMAP, right? HUGETLB_PAGE_OPTIMIZE_VMEMMAP_DEFAULT_ON
could be off when user enable HVO via cmdline.
>
> Even if it's false for sections without order explicitly set (which is
> btw not very obvious), this adds checks for every struct page that we
> initialize.
>
> We can revisit this later when the optimization would be relevant for
> memory hotplug.
OK. Will do.
>
>> + if (!is_power_of_2(sizeof(struct page)))
>> + return false;
>> +
>> + return (pfn & (nr_pages - 1)) >= OPTIMIZED_FOLIO_VMEMMAP_NR_STRUCT_PAGES;
>> +}
>> #else
>> static inline void sparse_init_subsection_map(void)
>> {
>> }
>> +
>> +static inline bool page_vmemmap_optimizable(const struct page *page, unsigned int order)
>> +{
>> + return false;
>> +}
>> #endif /* CONFIG_SPARSEMEM_VMEMMAP */
>>
>> #if defined CONFIG_COMPACTION || defined CONFIG_CMA
>> diff --git a/mm/mm_init.c b/mm/mm_init.c
>> index 4026b084bd4b..7ef1ac105058 100644
>> --- a/mm/mm_init.c
>> +++ b/mm/mm_init.c
>> @@ -674,19 +674,21 @@ static inline void fixup_hashdist(void)
>> static inline void fixup_hashdist(void) {}
>> #endif /* CONFIG_NUMA */
>>
>> -#if defined(CONFIG_ZONE_DEVICE) || defined(CONFIG_DEFERRED_STRUCT_PAGE_INIT)
>> static __meminit void pageblock_migratetype_init_range(unsigned long pfn,
>> - unsigned long nr_pages, int migratetype, bool atomic)
>> + unsigned long nr_pages, int migratetype, bool isolate, bool atomic)
>> {
>> const unsigned long end = pfn + nr_pages;
>>
>> for (pfn = pageblock_align(pfn); pfn < end; pfn += pageblock_nr_pages) {
>> - init_pageblock_migratetype(pfn_to_page(pfn), migratetype, false);
>> + init_pageblock_migratetype(pfn_to_page(pfn), migratetype, isolate);
>> +#ifdef CONFIG_SPARSEMEM
>> if (!atomic && IS_ALIGNED(pfn, PAGES_PER_SECTION))
>> +#else
>> + if (!atomic && IS_ALIGNED(pfn, MAX_FOLIO_NR_PAGES))
>> +#endif
>> cond_resched();
>> }
>> }
>> -#endif
>>
>> #ifdef CONFIG_DEFERRED_STRUCT_PAGE_INIT
>> static inline void pgdat_set_deferred_range(pg_data_t *pgdat)
>> @@ -892,6 +894,8 @@ void __meminit memmap_init_range(unsigned long size, int nid, unsigned long zone
>> #endif
>>
>> for (pfn = start_pfn; pfn < end_pfn; ) {
>> + unsigned int order = section_order(__pfn_to_section(pfn));
>> +
>
> I'd move this into page_vmemmap_optimizable(). This way it would be
> clearer that a section must have non 0 order for optimization to catch.
Make sense. Will do.
>
>> /*
>> * There can be holes in boot-time mem_map[]s handed to this
>> * function. They do not exist on hotplugged memory.
>> @@ -906,6 +910,15 @@ void __meminit memmap_init_range(unsigned long size, int nid, unsigned long zone
>> }
>>
>> page = pfn_to_page(pfn);
>> + if (page_vmemmap_optimizable(page, order)) {
>
> You can pass pfn instead of page to page_vmemmap_optimizable(), will
> save a conversion there.
I followed up on your hunch by checking the assembly code. In particular,
I do not see the usual page_to_pfn() sequence that subtracts vmemmap_base
from the struct page pointer and then divides/shifts by sizeof(struct page),
such as:
subq vmemmap_base(%rip), ...
sarq/shrq $6, ...
Instead, the relevant sequence looks like this:
# page = pfn_to_page(pfn)
movq %rbx, %rax # %rbx holds the outer pfn
movq vmemmap_base(%rip), %rdi
salq $6, %rax # pfn * sizeof(struct page)
addq %rax, %rdi # page = vmemmap_base + pfn * 64
# page_vmemmap_optimizable(): pfn & ((1UL << order) - 1)
sarq $6, %rax # recover pfn from the temporary pfn * 64 value
andq %rdx, %rax
cmpq $63, %rax
ja ...
That said, GCC does not produce the perfectly ideal form where it uses
the original PFN register directly for the page_vmemmap_optimizable() test.
It still does a cheap shift-left followed by a shift-right on the temporary
value. This is not the problematic pointer-to-PFN round trip; it is just a
minor missed simplification in register/value propagation.
Based on the analysis above, I think we have three options right now:
1. Pass the PFN without changing the original function name. However,
the parameters and names don't seem to match.
2. Pass the PFN and change the function name to pfn_vmemmap_optimizable.
3. Don't modify anything at all, because looking at the assembly results,
the overhead seems almost negligible.
Options 2 and 3 look good to me. Which approach do you think is more
appropriate for you?
>
>> + const unsigned long start = pfn;
>> +
>> + pfn = min(ALIGN(start, 1UL << order), end_pfn);
>> + pageblock_migratetype_init_range(start, pfn - start, migratetype,
>> + isolate_pageblock, false);
>
> I wonder if we'll see any measurable difference in the memmap initialization
> if we pull pageblock initialization out unconditionally.
I tested it and found no difference between the two.
>
> If we don't we can just call pageblock_migratetype_init_range() for the
> entire range and kill that
>
> if (pageblock_aligned(pfn)) {
> init_pageblock_migratetype(page, migratetype,
> isolate_pageblock);
> cond_resched();
> }
Therefore, we can apply the suggested changes here. Also, just a heads-up:
we still need to introduce and use the isolate parameter here, even though
you mentioned earlier in this thread that it could be optimized away.
Thanks.
>
> --
> Sincerely yours,
> Mike.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-07-15 9:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-07-02 9:38 [PATCH 00/17] mm: Introduce section-based vmemmap optimization for HugeTLB Muchun Song
2026-07-02 9:38 ` [PATCH 01/17] mm/sparse: drop power-of-2 size requirement for struct mem_section Muchun Song
2026-07-15 5:08 ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-15 9:34 ` David Laight
2026-07-15 13:15 ` Muchun Song
2026-07-15 15:52 ` David Laight
2026-07-16 6:51 ` Muchun Song
2026-07-02 9:38 ` [PATCH 02/17] mm/sparse-vmemmap: track compound page order in " Muchun Song
2026-07-15 5:08 ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-15 6:42 ` Muchun Song
2026-07-15 9:45 ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-16 9:15 ` David Laight
2026-07-16 10:57 ` Muchun Song
2026-07-02 9:38 ` [PATCH 03/17] mm/sparse-vmemmap: introduce folio-oriented vmemmap optimization macros Muchun Song
2026-07-15 5:08 ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-16 7:38 ` Muchun Song
2026-07-16 10:04 ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-02 9:38 ` [PATCH 04/17] mm/mm_init: skip initializing shared vmemmap tail pages Muchun Song
2026-07-09 10:45 ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-09 12:31 ` Muchun Song
2026-07-09 13:05 ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-09 13:23 ` Muchun Song
2026-07-15 5:08 ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-15 9:11 ` Muchun Song [this message]
2026-07-15 9:47 ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-02 9:38 ` [PATCH 05/17] mm/sparse-vmemmap: initialize shared tail vmemmap pages on allocation Muchun Song
2026-07-02 9:38 ` [PATCH 06/17] mm/sparse-vmemmap: support section-based vmemmap accounting Muchun Song
2026-07-15 5:08 ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-15 14:44 ` Muchun Song
2026-07-16 6:23 ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-16 6:48 ` Muchun Song
2026-07-02 9:38 ` [PATCH 07/17] mm/sparse-vmemmap: support section-based vmemmap optimization Muchun Song
2026-07-15 5:08 ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-16 7:19 ` Muchun Song
2026-07-02 9:38 ` [PATCH 08/17] mm/sparse: mark memory sections present earlier Muchun Song
2026-07-09 10:54 ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-09 12:35 ` Muchun Song
2026-07-15 5:08 ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-16 7:15 ` Muchun Song
2026-07-02 9:38 ` [PATCH 09/17] mm/hugetlb: switch HugeTLB to section-based vmemmap optimization Muchun Song
2026-07-15 5:08 ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-02 9:38 ` [PATCH 10/17] mm/mm_init: factor out pfn_to_zone() Muchun Song
2026-07-15 5:08 ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-16 7:18 ` Muchun Song
2026-07-02 9:38 ` [PATCH 11/17] mm/sparse-vmemmap: remove SPARSEMEM_VMEMMAP_PREINIT support Muchun Song
2026-07-15 5:08 ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-02 9:38 ` [PATCH 12/17] mm/sparse: inline usemap allocation into sparse_init_nid() Muchun Song
2026-07-15 5:08 ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-02 9:38 ` [PATCH 13/17] mm/sparse: remove section_map_size() Muchun Song
2026-07-15 5:08 ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-02 9:38 ` [PATCH 14/17] mm/hugetlb: remove HUGE_BOOTMEM_HVO Muchun Song
2026-07-15 5:08 ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-02 9:38 ` [PATCH 15/17] mm/hugetlb: remove HUGE_BOOTMEM_CMA Muchun Song
2026-07-15 5:08 ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-02 9:38 ` [PATCH 16/17] mm/hugetlb: localize struct huge_bootmem_page Muchun Song
2026-07-15 5:08 ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-02 9:38 ` [PATCH 17/17] mm/hugetlb: localize HUGE_BOOTMEM_ZONES_VALID Muchun Song
2026-07-15 5:08 ` Mike Rapoport
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