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From: "Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>
To: "Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: "Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
	"Matthew Maurer" <mmaurer@google.com>,
	"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	"Sami Tolvanen" <samitolvanen@google.com>,
	"Timur Tabi" <ttabi@nvidia.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 4/4] rust: samples: Add debugfs sample
Date: Thu, 22 May 2025 22:26:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DA2Z09MJZSKV.35D1CB1MQ4EJD@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aC9hm9D458C6LsRW@google.com>

On Thu May 22, 2025 at 7:40 PM CEST, Alice Ryhl wrote:
> On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 04:15:46PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
>> No, sorry, but debugfs files are "create and forget" type of things.
>> The caller has NO reference back to the file at all in the C version,
>> let's not add that functionality back to the rust side after I spent a
>> long time removing it from the C code :)
>> 
>> If you really want to delete a debugfs file that you have created in the
>> past, then look it up and delete it with the call that is present for
>> that.
>> 
>> The only thing I think that might be worth "keeping" in some form, as an
>> object reference as discussed, is a debugfs directory.
>
> That could work if we don't have any Rust value for files at all. The
> problem is that if we do have such values, then code like this:
>
> let my_file = dir.create_file("my_file_name");
> dir.delete_file("my_file_name");
> my_file.do_something();

I might have misunderstood something, but "deleting a debugfs file" is
not the same as freeing the representing object (is that a dentry?). So
you could still call `do_something`, it just wouldn't do anything.

Or did I misunderstand?

---
Cheers,
Benno

> would be a UAF on the last line. We have to design the Rust API to avoid
> such UAF, which is why I suggested the ghost objects; the delete_file()
> call leaves my_file in a valid but useless state. And as a ghost object,
> the .do_something() call becomes a no-op since the file is now missing
> from the filesystem.
>
> Alice


  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-22 20:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-05 23:51 [PATCH v5 0/4] rust: DebugFS Bindings Matthew Maurer
2025-05-05 23:51 ` [PATCH v5 1/4] rust: debugfs: Bind DebugFS directory creation Matthew Maurer
2025-05-07 18:46   ` Timur Tabi
2025-05-14 22:26     ` Matthew Maurer
2025-05-14  7:33   ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-14  8:49     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-05-14  9:38       ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-05 23:51 ` [PATCH v5 2/4] rust: debugfs: Bind file creation for long-lived Display Matthew Maurer
2025-05-07 19:04   ` Timur Tabi
2025-05-07 19:41   ` Timur Tabi
2025-05-09 12:56   ` Alice Ryhl
2025-05-12 20:51   ` Timur Tabi
2025-05-14  8:06   ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-05 23:51 ` [PATCH v5 3/4] rust: debugfs: Support format hooks Matthew Maurer
2025-05-05 23:51 ` [PATCH v5 4/4] rust: samples: Add debugfs sample Matthew Maurer
2025-05-14  7:20   ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-14  9:07     ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-05-14  9:54       ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-14 11:24         ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-05-14 12:21           ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-14 13:04             ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-05-14 22:14           ` Matthew Maurer
2025-05-14 22:08         ` Matthew Maurer
2025-05-14 22:14           ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-05-14 22:23             ` Matthew Maurer
2025-05-14 22:32               ` Matthew Maurer
2025-05-14 22:40                 ` Timur Tabi
2025-05-14 22:42                   ` Matthew Maurer
2025-05-15  7:43                     ` gregkh
2025-05-15  8:50           ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-14 21:55       ` Matthew Maurer
2025-05-14 22:18         ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-05-15  8:59         ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-15 11:43           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-05-15 12:37             ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-05-15 12:55               ` Benno Lossin
2025-05-20 21:24             ` Alice Ryhl
2025-05-21  4:47               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-05-21 22:40                 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-05-21  7:57               ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-05-21 22:43                 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-05-22  6:25                   ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-05-22  8:28                     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-05-22 14:01                     ` Alice Ryhl
2025-05-22 14:15                       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-05-22 17:40                         ` Alice Ryhl
2025-05-22 20:26                           ` Benno Lossin [this message]
2025-05-23  9:15                           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-05-22 17:53                         ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-05-23  9:14                           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-05-23  9:42                             ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-05-23 10:22                               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-05-23 17:09                               ` Alice Ryhl
2025-05-24 12:25                                 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-05-27 11:38                                   ` Alice Ryhl
2025-05-27 11:50                                     ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-10 17:54                                       ` Matthew Maurer
2025-05-23 17:06                             ` Alice Ryhl
2025-05-07 16:49 ` [PATCH v5 0/4] rust: DebugFS Bindings Danilo Krummrich

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