From: "Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>
To: "Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>
Cc: "Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
"Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
"Krzysztof Wilczyński" <kwilczynski@kernel.org>,
"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
"Tamir Duberstein" <tamird@gmail.com>,
"Viresh Kumar" <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, "Maíra Canal" <mcanal@igalia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] rust: types: add FOREIGN_ALIGN to ForeignOwnable
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2025 13:51:21 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <DAJOKFHW96XZ.2ANYSSFQO03ZL@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87jz5izhg3.fsf@kernel.org>
On Wed Jun 11, 2025 at 12:43 PM CEST, Andreas Hindborg wrote:
> "Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org> writes:
>
>> On Tue Jun 10, 2025 at 4:15 PM CEST, Alice Ryhl wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jun 10, 2025 at 4:10 PM Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org> writes:
>>>>
>>>> > On Tue Jun 10, 2025 at 1:30 PM CEST, Andreas Hindborg wrote:
>>>> >> diff --git a/rust/kernel/types.rs b/rust/kernel/types.rs
>>>> >> index 22985b6f6982..0ccef6b5a20a 100644
>>>> >> --- a/rust/kernel/types.rs
>>>> >> +++ b/rust/kernel/types.rs
>>>> >> @@ -21,15 +21,11 @@
>>>> >> ///
>>>> >> /// # Safety
>>>> >> ///
>>>> >> -/// Implementers must ensure that [`into_foreign`] returns a pointer which meets the alignment
>>>> >> -/// requirements of [`PointedTo`].
>>>> >> -///
>>>> >> -/// [`into_foreign`]: Self::into_foreign
>>>> >> -/// [`PointedTo`]: Self::PointedTo
>>>> >> +/// Implementers must ensure that [`Self::into_foreign`] returns pointers aligned to
>>>> >> +/// [`Self::FOREIGN_ALIGN`].
>>>> >> pub unsafe trait ForeignOwnable: Sized {
>>>> >> - /// Type used when the value is foreign-owned. In practical terms only defines the alignment of
>>>> >> - /// the pointer.
>>>> >> - type PointedTo;
>>>> >> + /// The alignment of pointers returned by `into_foreign`.
>>>> >> + const FOREIGN_ALIGN: usize;
>>>> >>
>>>> >> /// Type used to immutably borrow a value that is currently foreign-owned.
>>>> >> type Borrowed<'a>;
>>>> >> @@ -39,18 +35,20 @@ pub unsafe trait ForeignOwnable: Sized {
>>>> >>
>>>> >> /// Converts a Rust-owned object to a foreign-owned one.
>>>> >> ///
>>>> >> + /// The foreign representation is a pointer to void. Aside from the guarantees listed below,
>>>> >
>>>> > I feel like this reads better:
>>>> >
>>>> > s/guarantees/ones/
>>>> >
>>>> >> + /// there are no other guarantees for this pointer. For example, it might be invalid, dangling
>>>> >
>>>> > We should also mention that it could be null. (or is that assumption
>>>> > wrong?)
>>>>
>>>> It is probably not going to be null, but it is allowed to. I can add it.
>>>>
>>>> The list does not claim to be exhaustive, and a null pointer is just a
>>>> special case of an invalid pointer.
>>>
>>> We probably should not allow null pointers. If we do, then
>>> try_from_foreign does not make sense.
>>
>> That's a good point. Then let's add that as a safety requirement for the
>> trait.
>
> I disagree. It does not matter for the safety of the trait.
>
> From the point of the user, the pointer is opaque and can be any value.
> In fact, one could do a safe implementation where the returned value is
> a key into some mapping structure. Probably not super fast, but the user
> should not care.
Then we'll have to remove `try_from_foreign`.
---
Cheers,
Benno
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-11 11:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-10 11:30 Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-10 11:37 ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-06-10 11:58 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-10 12:28 ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-06-10 12:49 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-10 14:10 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-10 14:15 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-06-11 6:36 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-11 10:43 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-11 11:51 ` Benno Lossin [this message]
2025-06-11 12:14 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-11 12:24 ` Alice Ryhl
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