From: "Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>
To: "Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>
Cc: "Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
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"Greg KH" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
"Fiona Behrens" <me@kloenk.dev>,
"Daniel Almeida" <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>,
linux-modules@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v13 2/6] rust: introduce module_param module
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2025 10:23:16 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <DAX65TRN0TGP.25VZ9DYV86XWY@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87plepzke5.fsf@kernel.org>
On Fri Jun 27, 2025 at 9:57 AM CEST, Andreas Hindborg wrote:
> Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org> writes:
>> "Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org> writes:
>>> That's good to know, then let's try to go for something simple.
>>>
>>> I don't think that we can just use a `Mutex<T>`, because we don't have a
>>> way to create it at const time... I guess we could have
>>>
>>> impl<T> Mutex<T>
>>> /// # Safety
>>> ///
>>> /// The returned value needs to be pinned and then `init` needs
>>> /// to be called before any other methods are called on this.
>>> pub unsafe const fn const_new() -> Self;
>>>
>>> pub unsafe fn init(&self);
>>> }
>>>
>>> But that seems like a bad idea, because where would we call the `init`
>>> function? That also needs to be synchronized...
>>
>> Ah, that is unfortunate. The init function will not run before this, so
>> we would need a `Once` or an atomic anyway to initialize the lock.
>>
>> I am not sure if we are allowed to sleep during this, I would have to
>> check. But then we could use a spin lock.
>>
>> We will need the locking anyway, when we want to enable sysfs write
>> access to the parameters.
>>
>>>
>>> Maybe we can just like you said use an atomic bool?
>>
>> Sigh, I will have to check how far that series has come.
>>
>
> I think I am going to build some kind of `Once` feature on top of
> Boqun's atomic series [1], so that we can initialize a lock in these
> statics. We can't use `global_lock!`, because that depends on module
> init to initialize the lock before first use.
Sounds good, though we probably don't want to name it `Once`. Since it
is something that will be populated in the future, but not by some
random accessor, but rather a specific populator.
So maybe:
pub struct Delayed<T> {
dummy: T,
real: Opaque<T>,
populated: Atomic<bool>, // or Atomic<Flag>
writing: Atomic<bool>, // or Atomic<Flag>
}
impl<T> Delayed<T> {
pub fn new(dummy: T) -> Self {
Self {
dummy,
real: Opaque::uninit(),
populated: Atomic::new(false),
writing: Atomic::new(false),
}
}
pub fn get(&self) -> &T {
if self.populated.load(Acquire) {
unsafe { &*self.real.get() }
} else {
// maybe print a warning here?
// or maybe let the user configure this in `new()`?
&self.dummy
}
}
pub fn populate(&self, value: T) {
if self.writing.cmpxchg(false, true, Release) {
unsafe { *self.real.get() = value };
self.populated.store(true, Release);
} else {
pr_warn!("`Delayed<{}>` written to twice!\n", core::any::type_name::<T>());
}
}
}
(no idea if the orderings are correct, I always have to think way to
much about that... especially since our atomics seem to only take one
ordering in compare_exchange?)
> As far as I can tell, atomics may not land in v6.17, so this series
> will probably not be ready for merge until v6.18 at the earliest.
Yeah, sorry about that :(
> Thanks for the input, Benno!
My pleasure!
---
Cheers,
Benno
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-27 8:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-12 13:40 [PATCH v13 0/6] rust: extend `module!` macro with integer parameter support Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-12 13:40 ` [PATCH v13 1/6] rust: str: add radix prefixed integer parsing functions Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-18 20:38 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-19 11:12 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-19 12:17 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-19 12:41 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-12 13:40 ` [PATCH v13 2/6] rust: introduce module_param module Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-18 20:59 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-19 12:20 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-19 12:55 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-20 10:31 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-19 13:15 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-20 11:29 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-20 11:52 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-20 12:28 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-23 9:44 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-23 11:48 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-23 12:37 ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-06-23 13:55 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-23 14:31 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-23 15:20 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-24 11:57 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-27 7:57 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-27 8:23 ` Benno Lossin [this message]
2025-06-30 11:18 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-30 12:27 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-30 13:15 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-30 19:02 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-01 8:43 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-07-01 9:05 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-01 14:14 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-07-01 15:43 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-01 16:27 ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-07-01 16:54 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-02 8:30 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-07-02 8:26 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-07-02 10:01 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-02 7:56 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-23 9:47 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-12 13:40 ` [PATCH v13 3/6] rust: module: use a reference in macros::module::module Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-18 20:07 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-12 13:40 ` [PATCH v13 4/6] rust: module: update the module macro with module parameter support Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-18 21:07 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-19 12:31 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-12 13:40 ` [PATCH v13 5/6] rust: samples: add a module parameter to the rust_minimal sample Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-18 19:48 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-30 11:30 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-30 12:12 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-30 12:18 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-30 12:23 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-06-30 12:31 ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-12 13:40 ` [PATCH v13 6/6] modules: add rust modules files to MAINTAINERS Andreas Hindborg
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