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From: Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>
Cc: the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: Align TLB invalidation info
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2018 21:38:46 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DBF48795-2F4B-4C65-A5DD-A78D2214DF9B@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f7270e0d-d1d1-599d-d2c9-ddc2c263e090@linux.intel.com>

Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com> wrote:

> On 01/31/2018 01:09 PM, Nadav Amit wrote:
>>> You also don't have to exhaustively test this, but I'd love to see at
>>> least a sanity check with a microbenchmark (or something) that, yes,
>>> this does help *something*.  Maybe it makes the remote
>>> flush_tlb_func_common() run faster because it's pulling in fewer lines,
>>> or maybe you can even detect fewer misses in there.
>> I agree that with the whole Meltdown/Spectre entry-cost it might not even be
>> measurable, at least on small ( < 2 sockets) machines. But I do not think it
>> worth profiling. Basically, AFAIK, all the data structures that are used for
>> inter-processor communication by the kernel are aligned, and this is an
>> exception.
> 
> I'm certainly not nak'ing this.  I think your patch is likely a good
> idea.  But, could you please take ten or twenty minutes to go see if
> practice matches your assumptions?  I'd really appreciate it.  If you
> can't measure it, then no biggie.

[CC’ing the mailing list]

Per your request, I measured it (which perhaps I should have done before). I
caused a misalignment intentionally by adding some padding to flush_tlb_info
and compared it with an aligned version.

I used ftrace to measure the execution time of flush_tlb_func_remote() on a
2-socket Haswell machine, using a microbenchmark I wrote for some research
project.

It turns out that your skepticism may be correct - In both cases the
function execution time is roughly 400ns (2% improvement on the aligned case
which is probably noise).

So it is up to you whether you want to discard the patch.

Regards,
Nadav

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-02-01  5:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-31 20:11 Nadav Amit
2018-01-31 20:24 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-31 20:48   ` Nadav Amit
2018-01-31 20:49     ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-31 20:52       ` Nadav Amit
2018-01-31 21:00     ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-31 21:01 ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-31 21:09   ` Nadav Amit
2018-01-31 21:15     ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-31 21:17       ` Nadav Amit
     [not found]     ` <f7270e0d-d1d1-599d-d2c9-ddc2c263e090@linux.intel.com>
2018-02-01  5:38       ` Nadav Amit [this message]
2018-02-01  9:38         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-01 18:45           ` Nadav Amit

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