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From: "Alexandre Courbot" <acourbot@nvidia.com>
To: "Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
	<gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>, <rafael@kernel.org>,
	<ojeda@kernel.org>, <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	<boqun.feng@gmail.com>, <gary@garyguo.net>,
	<bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>, <lossin@kernel.org>,
	<a.hindborg@kernel.org>, <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	<tmgross@umich.edu>
Cc: <rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] device: rust: documentation for DeviceContext
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2025 21:32:43 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DBF6M9BZUX3C.2VXBZJKQYGN84@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250717224806.54763-2-dakr@kernel.org>

On Fri Jul 18, 2025 at 7:45 AM JST, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
> Expand the documentation around DeviceContext states and types, in order
> to provide detailed information about their purpose and relationship
> with each other.
>
> Signed-off-by: Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>

Thanks, that's a welcome clarification and I think I finally understand
the Rust device model after going through this series!

A few minor nits/questions below.

> ---
>  rust/kernel/device.rs | 63 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--------
>  1 file changed, 52 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/rust/kernel/device.rs b/rust/kernel/device.rs
> index ca82926fd67f..d7ac56628fe5 100644
> --- a/rust/kernel/device.rs
> +++ b/rust/kernel/device.rs
> @@ -311,28 +311,69 @@ unsafe impl Send for Device {}
>  // synchronization in `struct device`.
>  unsafe impl Sync for Device {}
>  
> -/// Marker trait for the context of a bus specific device.
> +/// Marker trait for the context or scope of a bus specific device.
>  ///
> -/// Some functions of a bus specific device should only be called from a certain context, i.e. bus
> -/// callbacks, such as `probe()`.
> +/// [`DeviceContext`] is a marker trait for structures representing the context of a bus specific
> +/// [`Device`].
>  ///
> -/// This is the marker trait for structures representing the context of a bus specific device.

Shall we say `types` instead of `structures`, since these are ZSTs?
`structures` carries the hint that they will contain data, when they
don't (but maybe that's only me :)).

> +/// The specific device context types are: [`CoreInternal`], [`Core`], [`Bound`] and [`Normal`].
> +///
> +/// [`DeviceContext`] types are hierarchical, which means that there is a strict hierarchy that
> +/// defines which [`DeviceContext`] type can be derived from another. For instance, any
> +/// [`Device<Core>`] can dereference to a [`Device<Bound>`].
> +///
> +/// The following enunumeration illustrates the dereference hierarchy of [`DeviceContext`] types.
> +///
> +/// - [`CoreInternal`] => [`Core`] => [`Bound`] => [`Normal`]
> +/// - [`Core`] => [`Bound`] => [`Normal`]
> +/// - [`Bound`] => [`Normal`]
> +/// - [`Normal`]

That graph is super helpful. The last 3 lines look redundant though,
since the graph can be followed from any node.

> +///
> +/// Bus devices can automatically implement the dereference hierarchy by using
> +/// [`impl_device_context_deref`](kernel::impl_device_context_deref).
>  pub trait DeviceContext: private::Sealed {}
>  
> -/// The [`Normal`] context is the context of a bus specific device when it is not an argument of
> -/// any bus callback.
> +/// The [`Normal`] context is the default [`DeviceContext`] of any [`Device`].
> +///
> +/// The normal context does not indicate any specific scope. Any `Device<Ctx>` is also a valid
> +/// [`Device<Normal>`]. It is the only [`DeviceContext`] for which it is valid to implement
> +/// [`AlwaysRefCounted`](kernel::types::AlwaysRefCounted) for.
>  pub struct Normal;

`Normal` as a name can be interpreted in many different ways, and in the
case of a device context it is not clear what the "normal" state is. I
think it would be helpful if we can elaborate a bit more on what this
implies (i.e. what concretely speaking are the limitations), and if
possible why this name has been chosen.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-18 12:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-17 22:45 [PATCH 0/3] Documentation for Device / Driver infrastructure Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-17 22:45 ` [PATCH 1/3] device: rust: documentation for DeviceContext Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-18 12:32   ` Alexandre Courbot [this message]
2025-07-18 13:14     ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-21 13:48       ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-18 13:09   ` Daniel Almeida
2025-07-18 14:16     ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-20 15:45       ` Daniel Almeida
2025-07-17 22:45 ` [PATCH 2/3] device: rust: expand documentation for Device Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-20 15:56   ` Daniel Almeida
2025-07-21 11:26   ` Alice Ryhl
2025-07-21 11:42     ` Greg KH
2025-07-21 12:07       ` Alice Ryhl
2025-07-21 12:13         ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-21 13:17           ` Greg KH
2025-07-21 13:41             ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-21 12:07     ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-17 22:45 ` [PATCH 3/3] driver: rust: expand documentation for driver infrastructure Danilo Krummrich
2025-07-20 15:57   ` Daniel Almeida
2025-07-19  7:56 ` [PATCH 0/3] Documentation for Device / Driver infrastructure Greg KH

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