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From: "Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@ventanamicro.com>
To: "Drew Fustini" <fustini@kernel.org>,
	"Palmer Dabbelt" <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	"Björn Töpel" <bjorn@rivosinc.com>,
	"Alexandre Ghiti" <alex@ghiti.fr>,
	"Paul Walmsley" <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	"Samuel Holland" <samuel.holland@sifive.com>,
	"Drew Fustini" <dfustini@tenstorrent.com>,
	"Andy Chiu" <andybnac@gmail.com>,
	"Conor Dooley" <conor.dooley@microchip.com>,
	linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: "linux-riscv" <linux-riscv-bounces@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] riscv: Add sysctl to control discard of vstate during syscall
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2025 16:54:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DBHTIDY0HRM0.2B8L1WG7IBCXM@ventanamicro.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DBHQK4W9CL9F.1WM8JFVDQZ44F@ventanamicro.com>

2025-07-21T14:35:38+02:00, Radim Krčmář <rkrcmar@ventanamicro.com>:
> Shouldn't the RISC-V Linux syscall ABI be defined somewhere?

To clarify this point.  My issue is with the following part in
Documentation/arch/riscv/vector.rst:

>>  As indicated by version 1.0 of the V extension [1], vector registers are
>>  clobbered by system calls.
>>  [...]
>>  1: https://github.com/riscv/riscv-v-spec/blob/master/calling-convention.adoc

The ISA does not say that vector registers are clobbered by system
calls.  All the ISA says is:

  "This Appendix is only a placeholder to help explain the conventions
   used in the code examples, and is not considered frozen or
   part of the ratification process.  The official RISC-V psABI document
   is being expanded to specify the vector calling conventions."

while the RISC-V psABI says:

  "The calling convention for system calls does not fall within the
   scope of this document. Please refer to the documentation of the
   RISC-V execution environment interface (e.g OS kernel ABI, SBI)."

We made a circular dependency, misinterpreted the ISA, and probably
implemented a suboptimal syscall ABI -- preserving vector registers
seems strictly better.

> How come we could have broken it with 9657e9b7d253?

We changed the ABI once, so maybe we can change it back?

Thanks.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-21 14:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-19  3:39 Drew Fustini
2025-07-21 12:13 ` Darius Rad
2025-07-21 20:59   ` Drew Fustini
2025-07-21 21:28     ` Drew Fustini
2025-07-21 12:35 ` Radim Krčmář
2025-07-21 14:54   ` Radim Krčmář [this message]
2025-07-21 21:20     ` Drew Fustini
2025-07-31  1:05     ` Palmer Dabbelt
2025-07-31 12:24       ` Radim Krčmář
2025-08-01 21:41       ` Drew Fustini
2025-08-05 18:51         ` Drew Fustini
2025-07-21 21:16   ` Drew Fustini
2025-07-27 17:29     ` Drew Fustini
2025-07-23 21:55 ` Vivian Wang
2025-07-25 10:18   ` Radim Krčmář
2025-07-25 15:01     ` Vivian Wang
2025-07-25 18:47       ` Radim Krčmář
2025-07-26 18:37         ` Drew Fustini

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