From: "Diederik de Haas" <didi.debian@cknow.org>
To: "Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzk@kernel.org>
Cc: "Lee Jones" <lee@kernel.org>, "Pavel Machek" <pavel@kernel.org>,
"Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
"Conor Dooley" <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
"Jacek Anaszewski" <jacek.anaszewski@gmail.com>,
<linux-leds@vger.kernel.org>, <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
<linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] dt-bindings: leds: Clearly mark label property as deprecated
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2025 12:37:38 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <DC76U4GVR0O2.1HXLEPCF8BG02@cknow.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250820-hairy-economic-wildebeest-ba25a1@kuoka>
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On Wed Aug 20, 2025 at 10:14 AM CEST, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 15, 2025 at 02:06:49PM +0200, Diederik de Haas wrote:
>> On Fri Aug 15, 2025 at 1:00 PM CEST, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>> > On 15/08/2025 12:47, Diederik de Haas wrote:
>> >> The text description already mentioned the label property was
>> >> deprecated, but using the 'deprecated' property makes is clearer and
>> >> more explicit.
>> >>
>> >> Signed-off-by: Diederik de Haas <didi.debian@cknow.org>
>> >> ---
>> >> Documentation/devicetree/bindings/leds/common.yaml | 1 +
>> >> 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
>> >>
>> >
>> > Please first read previous discussions:
>>
>> [I reversed the order of the links so the oldest is first]
>>
>> > https://lore.kernel.org/all/20221122111124.6828-1-cniedermaier@dh-electronics.com/
>>
>> Rob: "They ['function' and 'label'] serve 2 different purposes."
>>
>> > https://lore.kernel.org/all/20240509110545.49889-1-linux@fw-web.de/
>>
>> Krzysztof: "I don't think there was conclusion to make it deprecated on
>> last attempt"
>>
>> I agree.
>> What I don't understand: Why wasn't the text updated to correct the
>> incorrect statement about deprecation (that's how I interpret it now)?
>> Or some other conclusion being made and that that will be reflected in
>> the text and/or a deprecated property.
>>
>> Otherwise the confusion remains and then it's just a matter of time
>> before a 4th person comes along proposing the same patch.
>> And possibly even more harmful: people use it incorrectly.
>
> Whatever change you want to do here, I expect to address one way or
> another these previous discussions. If the code is confusing, refine the
> description. But not in a way which ignored previous feedbacks.
I'm not going to make a change.
I thought I would be making (more) explicit what the binding says.
Apparently I read/interpreted it incorrectly. What I described above is
how I currently interpret the *confusion* text/discussion. Is that
correct? I have no idea. That I'm at least the 3rd person proposing this
change indicates I'm not the only one who is confused.
IMO it's up to a/the maintainer to make a decision and that should then
be reflected in the binding, which should fix any confusion.
I hadn't looked at the code yet, but *I*IUC the code should follow the
binding, not the other way around. That's how I have interpreted
(mostly your) comments related to various binding patches ever since I
started actively following upstream(ing) work. Which (again) may be an
incorrect interpretation.
Regards,
Diederik
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-08-20 10:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-15 10:47 Diederik de Haas
2025-08-15 11:00 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-08-15 12:06 ` Diederik de Haas
2025-08-20 8:14 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-08-20 10:37 ` Diederik de Haas [this message]
2025-08-20 20:43 ` Jacek Anaszewski
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