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From: "Théo Lebrun" <theo.lebrun@bootlin.com>
To: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
Cc: "Andrew Lunn" <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Conor Dooley" <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Nicolas Ferre" <nicolas.ferre@microchip.com>,
	"Claudiu Beznea" <claudiu.beznea@tuxon.dev>,
	"Geert Uytterhoeven" <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	"Harini Katakam" <harini.katakam@xilinx.com>,
	"Richard Cochran" <richardcochran@gmail.com>,
	<netdev@vger.kernel.org>, <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Thomas Petazzoni" <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com>,
	"Tawfik Bayouk" <tawfik.bayouk@mobileye.com>,
	"Sean Anderson" <sean.anderson@linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net v4 5/5] net: macb: avoid double endianness swap in macb_set_hwaddr()
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2025 11:02:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DCKQTNSCJD5Q.BKVVU59U0MU@bootlin.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aKXo_jihNKyJmxVQ@shell.armlinux.org.uk>

Hello Russell,

On Wed Aug 20, 2025 at 5:25 PM CEST, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2025 at 04:55:09PM +0200, Théo Lebrun wrote:
>> writel() does a CPU->LE conversion. Drop manual cpu_to_le*() calls.
>> 
>> On little-endian system:
>>  - cpu_to_le32() is a no-op (LE->LE),
>>  - writel() is a no-op (LE->LE),
>>  - dev_addr will therefore not be swapped and written as-is.
>> 
>> On big-endian system:
>>  - cpu_to_le32() is a swap (BE->LE),
>>  - writel() is a swap (BE->LE),
>>  - dev_addr will therefore be swapped twice and written as a BE value.
>
> I'm not convinced by this, I think you're missing something.
>
> writel() on a BE or LE system will give you bits 7:0 of the CPU value
> written to LE bit 7:0 of the register. It has to be this way, otherwise
> we would need to do endian conversions everwhere where we write simple
> numbers to device registers.
>
> Why?
>
> Remember that on a LE system with a 32-bit bus, a hex value of
> 0x76543210 at the CPU when written without conversion will appear
> as:
> 	0 on bus bits 0:3
> 	1 on bus bits 4:7
> 	...
> 	6 on bus bits 24:27
> 	7 on bus bits 28:31
>
> whereas on a BE system, this is reversed:
> 	6 on bus bits 0:3
> 	7 on bus bits 4:7
> 	...
> 	0 on bus bits 24:27
> 	1 on bus bits 28:31
>
> The specification is that writel() will write in LE format even on
> BE systems, so there is a need to do an endian conversion for BE
> systems.
>
> So, if a device expects bits 0:7 on the bus to be the first byte of
> the MAC address (high byte of the OUI) then this must be in CPU
> bits 0:7 as well.
>
>
> Now, assuming that a MAC address of AA:BB:CC:DD:EE:FF gets read as
> 0xDDCCBBAA by the first read on a LE machine, it will get read as
> 0xAABBCCDD on a BE machine.
>
> We can now see that combining these two, getting rid of the
> cpu_to_le32() is likely wrong.
>
> Therefore, I am not convinced this patch is actually correct.

Thanks for the above, in-detail, explanation. I agree with it all.
I've always have had a hard time wrapping my head around endianness
conversion.

Indeed the patch is wrong: the swap is required on BE platforms.
My gripe is more with the semantic of the current code:

   bottom = cpu_to_le32(*((u32 *)bp->dev->dev_addr));
   macb_or_gem_writel(bp, SA1B, bottom);
   top = cpu_to_le16(*((u16 *)(bp->dev->dev_addr + 4)));
   macb_or_gem_writel(bp, SA1T, top);

Notice how:
 - The type of the argument to cpu_to_le32(); pointer is to a CPU-endian
   value (u32) but in reality is to a BE32.
 - We apply cpu_to_le32() to get a swap but the semantic is wrong; input
   value is BE32 that we want to turn into CPU-endian.
 - Above two points apply to `u16 top` as well.
 - writel() are unrelated to the issue; they do the right thing by
   writing a CPU value into a LE device register.

Sparse is complaining about the second bulletpoint; it won't complain
about the first one because it trusts that you know what you are doing
with explicit casts.

   warning: incorrect type in assignment (different base types)
      expected unsigned int [usertype] bottom
      got restricted __le32 [usertype]

If we want to keep to the same structure, this does the exact same but
its semantic is more aligned to reality (to my eyes):

   bottom = le32_to_cpu(*((__le32 *)bp->dev->dev_addr));
   macb_or_gem_writel(bp, SA1B, bottom);
   top = le16_to_cpu(*((__le16 *)(bp->dev->dev_addr + 4)));
   macb_or_gem_writel(bp, SA1T, top);

Notice how:
 - Casts are fixed to signal proper types.
 - Use le32_to_cpu().

Sparse is happy and code has been tested on a BE platform.
Assembly generated is strictly identical.

However, I think we can do better. Second option:

   const unsigned char *addr = bp->dev->dev_addr;

   bottom = addr[0] << 0 | addr[1] << 8 | addr[2] << 16 | addr[3] << 24;
   top = addr[4] << 0 | addr[5] << 8;

This is a bit of a mouthful, what about this one?

   bottom = get_unaligned_le32(addr);
   top = get_unaligned_le16(addr + 4);

It is my preferred. I found those helpers reading more code that reads
the `unsigned char *dev_addr` field. Explicit and straight forward.

Can you confirm that last option fits well?

Thanks Russell,

--
Théo Lebrun, Bootlin
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
https://bootlin.com


  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-05  9:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-20 14:55 [PATCH net v4 0/5] net: macb: various fixes Théo Lebrun
2025-08-20 14:55 ` [PATCH net v4 1/5] dt-bindings: net: cdns,macb: allow tsu_clk without tx_clk Théo Lebrun
2025-08-26  9:25   ` Nicolas Ferre
2025-08-20 14:55 ` [PATCH net v4 2/5] net: macb: remove illusion about TBQPH/RBQPH being per-queue Théo Lebrun
2025-08-26  9:27   ` Nicolas Ferre
2025-08-20 14:55 ` [PATCH net v4 3/5] net: macb: move ring size computation to functions Théo Lebrun
2025-08-26  9:30   ` Nicolas Ferre
2025-08-20 14:55 ` [PATCH net v4 4/5] net: macb: single dma_alloc_coherent() for DMA descriptors Théo Lebrun
2025-08-26 15:23   ` Nicolas Ferre
2025-09-10 16:22     ` Théo Lebrun
2025-08-20 14:55 ` [PATCH net v4 5/5] net: macb: avoid double endianness swap in macb_set_hwaddr() Théo Lebrun
2025-08-20 15:25   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-09-05  9:02     ` Théo Lebrun [this message]
2025-08-20 15:03 ` [PATCH net v4 0/5] net: macb: various fixes Théo Lebrun

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