From: Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>
To: Alasdair G Kergon <agk@redhat.com>
Cc: "Jun'ichi Nomura" <j-nomura@ce.jp.nec.com>,
Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>, Lars Marowsky-Bree <lmb@suse.de>,
device-mapper development <dm-devel@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] sysfs representation of stacked devices (dm/md)
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 01:06:01 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <DEEF4650-99AF-4905-A291-453C2664A1B5@mac.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060217194249.GO12169@agk.surrey.redhat.com>
On Feb 17, 2006, at 14:42, Alasdair G Kergon wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 01:00:17PM -0500, Jun'ichi Nomura wrote:
>> Though md0, dm-0, dm-1 and sd[a-d] contain same LVM2 meta data,
>> LVM2 should pick up md0 as PV, not dm-0, dm-1 and sdXs. mdadm
>> should build md0 from dm-0 and dm-1, not from sdXs. Similar things
>> will happen on 'mount' and 'fsck' if we use file system labels
>> instead of LVM2.
>
> I can't speak for the 'mount' code base, but I don't think it'll
> make any significant difference to LVM2 - we'd still have to do all
> the same device scanning as we do now because we have to be aware
> of md devices defined in on-disk metadata regardless of whether or
> not the kernel knows about them at the time the command is run.
Aha! This is a very valid reason why we should export partition
types from the kernel to userspace: Partitions/devices that appear
to have 2 different filesystems/formats. The _kernel_ cannot
reliably tell which to use. On the other hand, a properly configured
_userspace_ initramfs could use configured partition-type
information, a small config file, and a user-configurable detection
algorithm to figure out that the device is _actually_ the first
segment of an ext3-on-LVM-on-RAID1, instead of a raw ext3, and mount
it appropriately. Now, this requires that the admin correctly
specify the partition types, but that seems a bit more reliable than
depending on the probe-order to get things right.
Cheers,
Kyle Moffett
--
Unix was not designed to stop people from doing stupid things,
because that would also stop them from doing clever things.
-- Doug Gwyn
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-02-18 6:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-02-17 18:00 Jun'ichi Nomura
2006-02-17 18:01 ` [PATCH 1/3] sysfs representation of stacked devices (dm/md common) Jun'ichi Nomura
2006-02-17 18:44 ` Alasdair G Kergon
2006-02-18 1:03 ` Jun'ichi Nomura
2006-02-18 19:50 ` Alasdair G Kergon
2006-02-21 15:33 ` Jun'ichi Nomura
2006-02-21 15:52 ` Alasdair G Kergon
2006-02-17 18:03 ` [PATCH 2/3] sysfs representation of stacked devices (dm) Jun'ichi Nomura
2006-02-17 18:05 ` [PATCH 3/3] sysfs representation of stacked devices (md) Jun'ichi Nomura
2006-02-17 19:42 ` [PATCH 0/3] sysfs representation of stacked devices (dm/md) Alasdair G Kergon
2006-02-18 1:21 ` Jun'ichi Nomura
2006-02-18 19:53 ` Alasdair G Kergon
2006-02-21 15:34 ` Jun'ichi Nomura
2006-02-18 6:06 ` Kyle Moffett [this message]
2006-02-19 22:04 ` Neil Brown
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=DEEF4650-99AF-4905-A291-453C2664A1B5@mac.com \
--to=mrmacman_g4@mac.com \
--cc=agk@redhat.com \
--cc=dm-devel@redhat.com \
--cc=j-nomura@ce.jp.nec.com \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=lmb@suse.de \
--cc=neilb@suse.de \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox
all inboxes | Powered by JetHome®