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From: "Alexandre Courbot" <acourbot@nvidia.com>
To: "Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>
Cc: "Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
	"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Daniel Almeida" <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>,
	"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun@kernel.org>,
	"Yury Norov" <yury.norov@gmail.com>,
	"John Hubbard" <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	"Alistair Popple" <apopple@nvidia.com>,
	"Joel Fernandes" <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>,
	"Timur Tabi" <ttabi@nvidia.com>, "Edwin Peer" <epeer@nvidia.com>,
	"Eliot Courtney" <ecourtney@nvidia.com>,
	"Dirk Behme" <dirk.behme@de.bosch.com>,
	"Steven Price" <steven.price@arm.com>,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 05/10] rust: io: add IoLoc and IoWrite types
Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2026 10:44:50 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DGRWZVJNLLH0.39JYHZIIMC9XK@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DGRJJA3068FV.3CE7J7SKLTN8O@garyguo.net>

On Mon Mar 2, 2026 at 12:11 AM JST, Gary Guo wrote:
> On Sat Feb 28, 2026 at 12:33 AM GMT, Alexandre Courbot wrote:
>> On Sat Feb 28, 2026 at 3:02 AM JST, Gary Guo wrote:
>> <snip>
>>>> +/// A pending I/O write operation, bundling a value with the [`IoLoc`] it should be written to.
>>>> +///
>>>> +/// Created by [`IoLoc::set`], [`IoLoc::zeroed`], [`IoLoc::default`], [`IoLoc::init`], or
>>>> +/// [`IoLoc::init_default`], and consumed by [`Io::write`] or [`Io::try_write`] to perform the
>>>> +/// actual write.
>>>> +///
>>>> +/// The value can be modified before writing using [`IoWrite::update`] or [`IoWrite::try_update`],
>>>> +/// enabling a builder pattern:
>>>> +///
>>>> +/// ```ignore
>>>> +/// io.write(REGISTER.init(|v| v.with_field(x)));
>>>> +/// ```
>>>
>>> Thinking about this again, I think we might still want to write
>>>
>>>     io.write(REGISTER, value)
>>
>> This was the original design, but as you point out below this makes the
>> very common case of writing a register value built from scratch more
>> verbose than it needs. Real-world examples are significantly worse, e.g:
>>
>>     bar.write(
>>     regs::NV_PFALCON_FALCON_DMATRFMOFFS::of::<E>()
>>         .try_init(|r| r.try_with_offs(load_offsets.dst_start + pos))?,
>>     );
>
> My main dissatisfaction with this is with the function call
>
> I wonder if we can just have
>
>     io.write(loc, value)
>     io.write_with(loc, updater)
>
> where the latter simply is a function that does
>
>     io.write(loc, updater(T::zeroed()))
>
> then the example would be
>
>     bar.write_with(
>         regs::NV_PFALCON_FALCON_DMATRFMOFFS::of::<E>(),
>         |r| r.try_with_offs(load_offsets.dst_start + pos)
>     )

That should be doable. Note that we currently support `zeroed` and
`default` as initializers, so having the same level of coverage would
require two `write` variants. I'd like to hear what Danilo thinks.

>
> [ Note: it's possible to have write_with that works with both fallible and
> non-fallible callbacks. You can define a trait like a monad (well, not fully
> a monad, because this just has a map, not a return and a bind):
>
> trait Map<T> {
>     type Mapped<U>;
>     
>     fn map<U>(self, f: impl FnOnce(T) -> U) -> Self::Mapped<U>;
> }
>
> impl<T> Map<T> for T {
>     type Mapped<U> = U;
>     
>     fn map<U>(self, f: impl FnOnce(T) -> U) -> Self::Mapped<U> {
>         f(self)
>     }
> }
>
> impl<T, E> Map<T> for Result<T, E> {
>     type Mapped<U> = Result<U, E>;
>     
>     fn map<U>(self, f: impl FnOnce(T) -> U) -> Self::Mapped<U> {
>         Ok(f(self?))
>     }
> }
>
> impl Io {    
>     fn write_with<R: IoLoc<T>, U: Map<T>, T: Zeroable, F: FnOnce(T) -> U>(&self, loc: R, f: F) -> U::Mapped<()> {
>         f(T::zeroed).map(|x| self.write(loc, x))
>     }
> }
>
> then this returns `()` if closure cannot fail, and returns `Result<()>` if it
> fails).

This approach look like it could also be used for I/O in general - right
now we do not handle bus errors, but we definitely should.

>
> end of note ]
>
> BTW, I am also not very happy with the `::<E>()` syntax. I think with the I/O
> projection upcoming, we might be able to get rid of relative offseting
> completely by requiring user to first project into `View<'_, .., FalconBase>` and then have
> some registers that can only be used on `Io<Type = FalconBase>` but nothing else.

That's something we can always update once I/O projection is available
if it can indeed be applied (using a two-steps approach if necessary). I
can already hear the pitchforks if we don't deliver some basic register
support for 7.1. :)

  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-02  1:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-24 14:21 [PATCH v7 00/10] rust: add `register!` macro Alexandre Courbot
2026-02-24 14:21 ` [PATCH v7 01/10] rust: enable the `generic_arg_infer` feature Alexandre Courbot
2026-02-24 14:21 ` [PATCH v7 02/10] rust: num: add `shr` and `shl` methods to `Bounded` Alexandre Courbot
2026-02-24 14:21 ` [PATCH v7 03/10] rust: num: add `into_bool` method " Alexandre Courbot
2026-02-24 14:21 ` [PATCH v7 04/10] rust: num: make Bounded::get const Alexandre Courbot
2026-02-27 12:33   ` Gary Guo
2026-02-24 14:21 ` [PATCH v7 05/10] rust: io: add IoLoc and IoWrite types Alexandre Courbot
2026-02-27 18:02   ` Gary Guo
2026-02-27 18:16     ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-28  0:33     ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-03-01 15:11       ` Gary Guo
2026-03-02  1:44         ` Alexandre Courbot [this message]
2026-03-02 12:53           ` Gary Guo
2026-03-02 13:12             ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-03-02 13:39               ` Gary Guo
2026-03-03  8:14                 ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-03-03  8:31                   ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-03-03 14:55                     ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-03-03 15:05                       ` Gary Guo
2026-03-04 16:18                       ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-03-04 18:39                         ` Gary Guo
2026-03-04 18:58                           ` Gary Guo
2026-03-04 19:19                             ` John Hubbard
2026-03-04 19:53                               ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-03-04 19:57                                 ` John Hubbard
2026-03-04 20:05                                 ` Gary Guo
2026-03-04 19:38                             ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-03-04 19:48                               ` Gary Guo
2026-03-04 20:37                                 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-03-04 21:13                                   ` Gary Guo
2026-03-04 21:38                                     ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-03-04 21:42                                       ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-03-04 22:15                                       ` Gary Guo
2026-03-04 22:22                                         ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-03-06  5:37                                         ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-03-06  7:47                                           ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-03-06 10:42                                           ` Gary Guo
2026-03-06 11:10                                             ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-03-06 11:35                                               ` Gary Guo
2026-03-06 12:50                                                 ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-03-06 13:20                                                   ` Gary Guo
2026-03-06 14:32                                                     ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-03-06 14:52                                                       ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-03-06 15:10                                                       ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-03-06 15:35                                                         ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-03-06 15:35                                                       ` Gary Guo
2026-03-07  0:05                                                         ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-03-07 21:10                                                           ` Gary Guo
2026-03-07 21:40                                                             ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-03-08 11:43                                                               ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-03-08 11:35                                                             ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-03-04 18:53                         ` Gary Guo
2026-03-04 22:19   ` Gary Guo
2026-03-05 11:02     ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-02-24 14:21 ` [PATCH v7 06/10] rust: io: use generic read/write accessors for primitive accesses Alexandre Courbot
2026-02-27 18:04   ` Gary Guo
2026-02-24 14:21 ` [PATCH v7 07/10] rust: io: add `register!` macro Alexandre Courbot
2026-02-24 14:21 ` [PATCH v7 08/10] sample: rust: pci: use " Alexandre Courbot
2026-02-24 14:21 ` [PATCH FOR REFERENCE v7 09/10] gpu: nova-core: use the kernel " Alexandre Courbot
2026-02-24 14:21 ` [PATCH v7 10/10] RFC: rust: io: allow fixed register values directly in `write` Alexandre Courbot
2026-02-25 11:58 ` [PATCH v7 00/10] rust: add `register!` macro Dirk Behme
2026-02-25 13:50   ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-02-26 12:01     ` Dirk Behme
2026-02-27 23:30       ` Alexandre Courbot

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