From: "Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>
To: "Alistair Popple" <apopple@nvidia.com>, "Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>
Cc: "Eliot Courtney" <ecourtney@nvidia.com>,
"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
"Alexandre Courbot" <acourbot@nvidia.com>,
"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
"David Airlie" <airlied@gmail.com>,
"Simona Vetter" <simona@ffwll.ch>,
"Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>,
"John Hubbard" <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
"Timur Tabi" <ttabi@nvidia.com>, <nova-gpu@lists.linux.dev>,
<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
<rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/13] gpu: nova-core: fsp: catch bogus queue pointer issues
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2026 11:57:03 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <DJAF4F8GJIWM.14MO2JWGG7OZM@garyguo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ajD-8-bp6Usjl56R@nvdebian.thelocal>
On Tue Jun 16, 2026 at 8:57 AM BST, Alistair Popple wrote:
> On 2026-06-16 at 03:15 +1000, Gary Guo <gary@garyguo.net> wrote...
>> On Mon Jun 15, 2026 at 3:40 PM BST, Eliot Courtney wrote:
>> > Currently, `poll_msgq` will report a message of size 4 if the queue
>> > pointers are broken. It's easy to catch this if it occurs, so have
>> > `poll_msgq` return an error in this case.
>> >
>> > Signed-off-by: Eliot Courtney <ecourtney@nvidia.com>
>> > ---
>> > drivers/gpu/nova-core/falcon/fsp.rs | 15 +++++++++------
>> > 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
>> >
>> > diff --git a/drivers/gpu/nova-core/falcon/fsp.rs b/drivers/gpu/nova-core/falcon/fsp.rs
>> > index e7419a6e71e2..21eaa8e261ce 100644
>> > --- a/drivers/gpu/nova-core/falcon/fsp.rs
>> > +++ b/drivers/gpu/nova-core/falcon/fsp.rs
>> > @@ -107,19 +107,22 @@ fn read_emem(&mut self, bar: Bar0<'_>, data: &mut [u8]) -> Result {
>> > /// Poll FSP for incoming data.
>> > ///
>> > /// Returns the size of available data in bytes, or 0 if no data is available.
>> > + /// Returns an error if the queue pointers are bogus (`tail < head`).
>> > ///
>> > /// The FSP message queue is not circular. Pointers are reset to 0 after each
>> > /// message exchange, so `tail >= head` is always true when data is present.
>> > - fn poll_msgq(&self, bar: Bar0<'_>) -> u32 {
>> > + fn poll_msgq(&self, bar: Bar0<'_>) -> Result<u32> {
>> > let head = bar.read(regs::NV_PFSP_MSGQ_HEAD::at(0)).val();
>> > let tail = bar.read(regs::NV_PFSP_MSGQ_TAIL::at(0)).val();
>> >
>> > if head == tail {
>> > - return 0;
>> > + Ok(0)
>> > + } else {
>> > + // TAIL points at the last DWORD written, so the size is `tail - head + 4`.
>> > + tail.checked_sub(head)
>> > + .and_then(|delta| delta.checked_add(4))
>> > + .ok_or(EIO)
>>
>> Whenever we fail with this, we should print a message (actually, the same thing
>> probably should be done for patch 1 as well).
>>
>> A plain EIO is going be very difficult to troubleshoot if this is ever hit.
>
> I don't disagree with the sentiment - this is a problem through out the kernel
> and I have spent way too long tracing where exactly error codes have come from
> both in C and Rust.
>
> But it seems odd to worry about these particular instances - they _should_
> never happen or at least be extremely rare and very unlikely by an end-user.
I think we should either consider it possible and add prints, or consider it a
bug (hardware or driver) and add a `WARN_ON`, or consider it impossible and not
add failure path at all.
> More to the point though there are many other places in nova-core (and I'm
> sure other drivers) where this pattern of just returning a fairly generic
> error code exists. So it feels like it would be nicer to deal with this at some
> other layer, eg. some kind of debug option to tag error codes with location
> or something.
This should happen whenever the information is lost. Creating a generic error
code would be such occasion. Handling it at upper layers is okay if the
information is kept for longer. For example:
enum NovaError {
...
}
impl From<NovaError> for Error {
fn from(err: NovaError) -> Self {
// Print here
EIO
}
}
Would be fine to me because the information is emitted to user when it is lost
by the concrete error -> error code conversion.
Best,
Gary
>
> So I'm not opposed to the comment, but maybe it would be better addressed as a
> separate question/patch series to figure out how to do this error reporting in a
> more generic or consistent way across all of Nova at least?
>
> - Alistair
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-06-16 10:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-15 14:40 [PATCH 00/13] gpu: nova-core: blackwell follow-ups and fixes Eliot Courtney
2026-06-15 14:40 ` [PATCH 01/13] gpu: nova-core: fsp: limit FSP receive message allocation size Eliot Courtney
2026-06-15 17:11 ` Gary Guo
2026-06-16 7:33 ` Alistair Popple
2026-06-20 14:08 ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-06-22 9:11 ` Eliot Courtney
2026-06-15 14:40 ` [PATCH 02/13] gpu: nova-core: fsp: catch bogus queue pointer issues Eliot Courtney
2026-06-15 17:15 ` Gary Guo
2026-06-16 7:57 ` Alistair Popple
2026-06-16 10:57 ` Gary Guo [this message]
2026-06-17 3:51 ` Eliot Courtney
2026-06-17 4:31 ` Alistair Popple
2026-06-15 14:40 ` [PATCH 03/13] gpu: nova-core: fsp: try to enforce exclusive access to FSP channel Eliot Courtney
2026-06-15 17:16 ` Gary Guo
2026-06-17 2:55 ` Eliot Courtney
2026-06-17 3:12 ` John Hubbard
2026-06-15 14:40 ` [PATCH 04/13] gpu: nova-core: falcon: gsp: move PRIV target mask constants Eliot Courtney
2026-06-15 17:17 ` Gary Guo
2026-06-16 8:02 ` Alistair Popple
2026-06-20 10:48 ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-06-15 14:40 ` [PATCH 05/13] gpu: nova-core: gsp: keep FMC boot params DMA region alive during error Eliot Courtney
2026-06-15 17:23 ` Gary Guo
2026-06-17 5:27 ` Eliot Courtney
2026-06-17 13:52 ` Gary Guo
2026-06-22 9:26 ` Eliot Courtney
2026-06-15 14:40 ` [PATCH 06/13] gpu: nova-core: fsp: move FMC firmware loading into wait_secure_boot Eliot Courtney
2026-06-15 17:24 ` Gary Guo
2026-06-20 10:48 ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-06-15 14:40 ` [PATCH 07/13] gpu: nova-core: gsp: ensure lifetime for FMC boot DMA allocations Eliot Courtney
2026-06-15 14:40 ` [PATCH 08/13] gpu: nova-core: gsp: ensure LibOS DMA allocation lives long enough Eliot Courtney
2026-06-17 6:11 ` Alistair Popple
2026-06-15 14:40 ` [PATCH 09/13] gpu: nova-core: wait for FSP boot earlier Eliot Courtney
2026-06-17 14:27 ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-06-24 1:21 ` Eliot Courtney
2026-06-15 14:40 ` [PATCH 10/13] gpu: nova-core: split FbLayout into FSP and non-FSP versions Eliot Courtney
2026-06-15 14:40 ` [PATCH 11/13] gpu: nova-core: correct FRTS vidmem offset calculation Eliot Courtney
2026-06-15 14:40 ` [PATCH 12/13] gpu: nova-core: rename heap size field Eliot Courtney
2026-06-15 14:40 ` [PATCH 13/13] gpu: nova-core: return non-WPR heap size as u64 from HALs Eliot Courtney
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