From: "Luca Ceresoli" <luca.ceresoli@bootlin.com>
To: "Maxime Ripard" <mripard@kernel.org>,
"Luca Ceresoli" <luca.ceresoli@bootlin.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/11] drm/panel: merge the drm_kms_helper module into the drm module
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2026 14:40:10 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <DL3ZJBN3TALE.XBW7KL51XGBO@bootlin.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <apBGjqt9GI5egQW6@houat>
Hi Maxime,
On Thu Aug 27, 2026 at 4:17 PM CEST, Maxime Ripard wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 24, 2026 at 04:16:02PM +0200, Luca Ceresoli wrote:
>> Hi Maxime,
>>
>> On Mon Aug 24, 2026 at 9:48 AM CEST, Maxime Ripard wrote:
>> > On Mon, Aug 17, 2026 at 02:27:58PM +0200, Luca Ceresoli wrote:
>> >> On Mon Aug 17, 2026 at 10:31 AM CEST, Maxime Ripard wrote:
>> >> > On Fri, Aug 14, 2026 at 04:05:52PM +0200, Luca Ceresoli wrote:
>> >> >> Work is in progress to make every drm_panel automatically create a
>> >> >> panel_bridge [0][1].
>> >> >>
>> >> >> This requires the panel code to call the drm_panel_bridge APIs. However
>> >> >> this would create a circular dependency loop on modular builds:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> __devm_drm_panel_alloc() [drm]
>> >> >> -> drm_panel_bridge_add() [drm_kms_helper]
>> >> >> -> drm_bridge.c APIs [drm]
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Moving just the panel_brige.o file from [drm_kms_helper] to [drm] does not
>> >> >> work because the panel bridge code uses the drm_atomic_helper and
>> >> >> drm_probe_helper which add further dependencies on symbols in the
>> >> >> [drm_kms_helper] module.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> So take a simple approach, and move the entire drm_kms_helper into the
>> >> >> [drm] module.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/all/emuj2innmp6zmzd7pyakqzjqpdzhly6qfhakya3ydwmd63pl26@5jwxaidpikjw/ [0]
>> >> >> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20250206-hotplug-drm-bridge-v6-8-9d6f2c9c3058@bootlin.com/ [1]
>> >> >> Signed-off-by: Luca Ceresoli <luca.ceresoli@bootlin.com>
>> >> >
>> >> > So, that's not an option. However, why do we need drm_panel_bridge_add()
>> >> > after this work is done? If we want to create a bridge for every panel,
>> >> > then the bridge implementation can live in drm_panel.c, which is part of
>> >> > the drm module.
>> >> >
>> >> > And we'd essentially move drm_panel_bridge into drm_panel.c, and make it
>> >> > private.
>> >>
>> >> Yes in theory, but the panel_bridge code uses other parts of the
>> >> drm_kms_helper module: drm_atomic_helper and drm_probe_helper, maybe more,
>> >> so we'd have to move them into the drm module too.
>> >
>> > Ah, right. What would happen if we were doing it the other way around
>> > then? Move drm_panel out of the main drm module?
>>
>> Into the drm_kms_helper module?
>>
>> I had a look and did some experiments and I found at least one user in the drm
>> module calling a drm_panel API, and guess who:
>>
>> drm_of_find_panel_or_bridge() (in drm_of.c, drm module)
>> -> calls of_drm_find_panel (in drm_panel.c, drm_kms_helper module)
>>
>> Based on our discussion after patch 3, I'm not sure
>> drm_of_find_panel_or_bridge() will disappear soon. If it doesn't, I guess
>> we can try to move drm_of_find_panel_or_bridge() into bridge/panel.c which
>> is in the drm_kms_helper module (and from drm_of.h info
>> drm_bridge.h?). That however might trigger build failures for drivers which
>> currently don't select DRM_KMS_HELPER and which would have to select it.
>>
>> I'll give it a try, and if I see major drawbacks I will get back to moving
>> all the drm_kms_helper code into the main drm module.
>
> No, I meant into its own module.
Looks like a good idea indeed, making the design more modular and
dependencies cleaner.
> Do we have any dependency from the main
> drm module into drm_panel?
As far as I can see there is only the one mentioned above:
drm_of_find_panel_or_bridge() (in drm_of.c, drm module)
-> calls of_drm_find_panel (in drm_panel.c, would-be the new drm_panel module)
And while drm_of_find_panel_or_bridge() is possibly going to disappear at
the end of my series, moving drm_panel.c to its own module would make the
series non-build-bisectable, which would be very annoying.
However there seem to be no calls from the drm module to
drm_of_find_panel_or_bridge(), so we could move it out as well. What about
a series doing, in this order:
- move drm_of_find_panel_or_bridge() from the drm module to the
drm_kms_helper module
- move drm_panel.c to a new drm_panel module
- Main change: embed a drm_bridge into every panel
- convert drivers to stop using the panel_bridge, hopefully removing all
calls to drm_of_find_panel_or_bridge()
- remove drm_of_find_panel_or_bridge()
Looks good?
Luca
--
Luca Ceresoli, Bootlin
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
https://bootlin.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-01 12:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-08-14 14:05 [PATCH 00/11] drm/panel: add a panel_bridge to every panel Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-14 14:05 ` [PATCH 01/11] drm: of: drm_of_find_panel_or_bridge: simplify freeing the remote node pointer Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-17 8:21 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-08-14 14:05 ` [PATCH 02/11] drm: of: drm_of_find_panel_or_bridge: simplify error return paths Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-17 8:23 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-08-14 14:05 ` [PATCH 03/11] drm: of: drm_of_find_panel_or_bridge: prioritize the bridge, not the panel Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-17 8:26 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-08-17 12:23 ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-24 8:16 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-08-24 14:15 ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-14 14:05 ` [PATCH 04/11] drm/panel: merge the drm_kms_helper module into the drm module Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-17 8:31 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-08-17 12:27 ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-24 7:48 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-08-24 14:16 ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-27 14:17 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-09-01 12:40 ` Luca Ceresoli [this message]
2026-09-01 14:30 ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-09-02 12:36 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-09-02 13:44 ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-09-03 9:44 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-08-14 14:05 ` [PATCH 05/11] drm/bridge: panel: add a panel_bridge to every panel Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-17 8:42 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-08-17 12:30 ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-14 14:05 ` [PATCH 06/11] drm/bridge: tc358767: don't create a panel_bridge Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-14 14:05 ` [PATCH 07/11] drm/bridge: waveshare-dsi: " Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-14 14:05 ` [PATCH 08/11] drm/mcde: dsi: simplify device_node management using scoped for_each variant Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-17 8:43 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-08-17 12:25 ` Linus Walleij
2026-08-17 12:34 ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-14 14:05 ` [PATCH 09/11] drm/mcde: dsi: don't create a panel_bridge Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-17 12:23 ` Linus Walleij
2026-08-14 14:05 ` [PATCH 10/11] drm/bridge: fsl-ldb: " Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-14 14:05 ` [PATCH 11/11] drm/bridge: samsung-dsim: " Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-14 14:13 ` [PATCH 00/11] drm/panel: add a panel_bridge to every panel Luca Ceresoli
2026-09-02 18:25 ` (subset) " Luca Ceresoli
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