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From: "Alexei Starovoitov" <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
To: <paulmck@kernel.org>
Cc: "Josef Bacik" <josef@toxicpanda.com>,
	"Frederic Weisbecker" <frederic@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 08/15] bpf, x86: Maintain Tasks RCU trampoline nesting in the BPF trampoline
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2026 10:18:48 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DLDICNLENSRI.2R6EJ0ZFJE45T@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <14cb8a91-497d-49f5-aa20-c6cb8b9a27fc@paulmck-laptop>

On Fri Sep 11, 2026 at 10:10 PM PDT, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2026 at 08:27:56PM -0700, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
>> On Fri Sep 11, 2026 at 7:08 AM PDT, Josef Bacik wrote:
>> > Emit an increment of current->rcu_tramp_nesting once the trampoline's
>> > frame is set up and a decrement before the final register restore, so
>> > that a task preempted while running fentry/fexit/fmod_ret/LSM programs
>> > or the __bpf_tramp_enter()/__bpf_tramp_exit() glue is not treated as
>> > Tasks-RCU quiescent.  Drop the count around the call to the original
>> > function: that may run arbitrarily long without sleeping and must not pin
>> > a Tasks RCU grace period, and the trampoline frame above it is held by
>> > im->pcref rather than by Tasks RCU (see bpf_tramp_image_put()).  The
>> > fmod_ret early-exit branch and the ip_after_call -> ip_epilogue poke both
>> > skip the decrement/increment pair around the original call, so the count
>> > stays balanced on every path.
>> >
>> > The sequence is "mov r11, gs:[current_task]; inc/dec dword [r11 + off]";
>> > r11 is scratch at every emission point and (u32)&current_task is a valid
>> > sign-extended %gs-absolute with the current per-CPU layout, the same form
>> > the JIT already uses for this_cpu_off.  The image is dynamically
>> > allocated text, so the instructions outside the bracketed region are
>> > covered by the irq-exit IP check.
>> >
>> > Assisted-by: LLM
>> > Signed-off-by: Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>
>> > ---
>> >  arch/x86/net/bpf_jit_comp.c | 43 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >  1 file changed, 43 insertions(+)
>> >
>> > diff --git a/arch/x86/net/bpf_jit_comp.c b/arch/x86/net/bpf_jit_comp.c
>> > index 2853e87797a7..a375c1b7bd50 100644
>> > --- a/arch/x86/net/bpf_jit_comp.c
>> > +++ b/arch/x86/net/bpf_jit_comp.c
>> > @@ -722,6 +722,31 @@ static void emit_indirect_jump(u8 **pprog, int bpf_reg, u8 *ip)
>> >  	*pprog = prog;
>> >  }
>> >  
>> > +/*
>> > + * Tasks RCU trampoline nesting, see rcu_tasks_trampoline_enter().
>> > + *
>> > + *   mov r11, QWORD PTR gs:[current_task]
>> > + *   inc/dec DWORD PTR [r11 + offsetof(struct task_struct, rcu_tramp_nesting)]
>> > + *
>> > + * r11 (AUX_REG) is scratch in the trampoline at every point this is emitted.
>> > + */
>> > +static void emit_rcu_tasks_tramp_nesting(u8 **pprog, bool enter)
>> > +{
>> > +#ifdef CONFIG_TASKS_RCU
>> > +	u8 *prog = *pprog;
>> > +
>> > +	/* mov r11, gs:[abs32] */
>> > +	EMIT2(0x65, 0x4C);
>> > +	EMIT3(0x8B, 0x1C, 0x25);
>> > +	EMIT((u32)(unsigned long)&current_task, 4);
>> > +	/* inc/dec dword ptr [r11 + disp32] */
>> > +	EMIT3(0x41, 0xFF, enter ? 0x83 : 0x8B);
>> > +	EMIT(offsetof(struct task_struct, rcu_tramp_nesting), 4);
>> > +
>> > +	*pprog = prog;
>> > +#endif
>> 
>> It's not a lot of overhead, but I feel it will be the death by thousand cuts.
>> rcu_read_lock_trace() in bpf_prog_enter_sleepable is doing the same thing...
>> increamenting a variable inside current.
>> Can they be combined? Like treat current->trc_reader_nesting > 0 as
>>  current->rcu_tramp_nesting > 0 ?
>> Or replace one with the other?
>> Two current->foo++ operations look redundant.
>> 
>> bpf trampoline is already quite heavy. I'd like to find ways to reduce
>> its overhead instead of adding more.
>
> Replace rcu_read_lock_trace() with Josef's rcu_tasks_trampoline_enter)?

If necessary...
what I don't understand why we need another rcu_tasks_trampoline_enter-like counter.
Can existing rcu_read_lock_trace() current be used ?
It's already doing current->trc_reader_nesting++
so use that as a signal ?


  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-12 17:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-11 14:08 [PATCH RFC v2 00/15] rcu-tasks: let preemption outside trampolines be a quiescent state Josef Bacik
2026-09-11 14:08 ` [PATCH RFC v2 01/15] rcu-tasks: Add per-task trampoline nesting count Josef Bacik
2026-09-11 17:23   ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-11 14:08 ` [PATCH RFC v2 02/15] entry: Pass pt_regs to irqentry_exit_cond_resched() Josef Bacik
2026-09-11 14:08 ` [PATCH RFC v2 03/15] rcu-tasks: Hold trampoline nesting across irq-exit preemption in trampoline text Josef Bacik
2026-09-11 14:08 ` [PATCH RFC v2 04/15] kprobes: Let Tasks RCU recognise tasks preempted in an optprobe jump window Josef Bacik
2026-09-11 14:08 ` [PATCH RFC v2 05/15] ftrace: Mark modules hosting direct-call trampolines for Tasks RCU Josef Bacik
2026-09-11 14:08 ` [PATCH RFC v2 06/15] x86/ftrace: Maintain Tasks RCU trampoline nesting in ftrace_caller Josef Bacik
2026-09-11 14:08 ` [PATCH RFC v2 07/15] x86/kprobes: Maintain Tasks RCU trampoline nesting in the optprobe template Josef Bacik
2026-09-11 14:08 ` [PATCH RFC v2 08/15] bpf, x86: Maintain Tasks RCU trampoline nesting in the BPF trampoline Josef Bacik
2026-09-12  3:27   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-09-12  5:10     ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-12 17:18       ` Alexei Starovoitov [this message]
2026-09-12 18:03         ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-12 19:40           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-09-12 22:28             ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-12 23:59               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-09-13  3:07                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-12 21:14           ` David Laight
2026-09-12 22:31             ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-11 14:08 ` [PATCH RFC v2 09/15] arm64: ftrace: Maintain Tasks RCU trampoline nesting in ftrace_caller Josef Bacik
2026-09-11 14:08 ` [PATCH RFC v2 10/15] bpf, arm64: Maintain Tasks RCU trampoline nesting in the BPF trampoline Josef Bacik
2026-09-11 14:08 ` [PATCH RFC v2 11/15] samples: ftrace: Maintain Tasks RCU trampoline nesting in direct-call trampolines Josef Bacik
2026-09-11 14:08 ` [PATCH RFC v2 12/15] rcutorture: Bracket Tasks RCU readers with trampoline nesting Josef Bacik
2026-09-11 14:08 ` [PATCH RFC v2 13/15] rcu-tasks: Treat preemption outside trampolines as a quiescent state Josef Bacik
2026-09-11 14:08 ` [PATCH RFC v2 14/15] rcu-tasks: Retire switched-out tasks with no trampoline nesting at scan time Josef Bacik
2026-09-11 14:08 ` [PATCH RFC v2 15/15] rcu-tasks: Kick running holdouts through the scheduler Josef Bacik
2026-09-11 18:46   ` Paul E. McKenney

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