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From: "Luca Ceresoli" <luca.ceresoli@bootlin.com>
To: "Luca Ceresoli" <luca.ceresoli@bootlin.com>,
	"Francesco Dolcini" <francesco@dolcini.it>
Cc: "Marek Vasut" <marex@denx.de>, "Stefan Agner" <stefan@agner.ch>,
	"Maarten Lankhorst" <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	"Maxime Ripard" <mripard@kernel.org>,
	"Thomas Zimmermann" <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	"David Airlie" <airlied@gmail.com>,
	"Simona Vetter" <simona@ffwll.ch>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Conor Dooley" <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Frank Li" <Frank.Li@nxp.com>,
	"Sascha Hauer" <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>,
	"Pengutronix Kernel Team" <kernel@pengutronix.de>,
	"Fabio Estevam" <festevam@gmail.com>,
	"Francesco Dolcini" <francesco.dolcini@toradex.com>,
	<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>, <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <imx@lists.linux.dev>,
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"Alexander Stein" <alexander.stein@ew.tq-group.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/4] drm: mxsfb: Add optional DPI output bus-width configuration
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2026 16:36:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DLGTEC6QXU0E.3MF7Z33ZQD9V0@bootlin.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DLGTA297W2SP.36MAJCYAC9O2X@bootlin.com>

On Wed Sep 16, 2026 at 4:30 PM CEST, Luca Ceresoli wrote:
> On Wed Sep 16, 2026 at 1:43 PM CEST, Francesco Dolcini wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2026 at 01:19:08PM +0200, Luca Ceresoli wrote:
>>> On Wed Sep 16, 2026 at 11:15 AM CEST, Francesco Dolcini wrote:
>>> > Hello Luca,
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Sep 16, 2026 at 10:42:13AM +0200, Luca Ceresoli wrote:
>>> >> > LCDIF programs LCD_DATABUS_WIDTH from the selected media bus format. The
>>> >> > format reported by the downstream panel or bridge describes the display
>>> >> > input, but it does not describe how the LCDIF data pins are physically
>>> >> > wired on the board.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > These can differ. For example, a 16-bit LCDIF bus can be connected to a
>>> >> > 24-bit display by wiring the available color bits to the corresponding
>>> >> > display inputs. In that case, using the display's 24-bit format to
>>> >> > configure LCDIF selects the wrong data-bus mode and changes the assignment
>>> >> > of color bits on the LCD_DATA pins.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Read the optional bus-width endpoint property from the LCDIF output port
>>> >> > and use it to select the media bus format used to configure LCDIF. This
>>> >> > allows the LCDIF bus mode to describe the physical interface
>>> >> > independently of the downstream display format.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > When the optional property is absent, or it has an invalid value, continue
>>> >> > using the format reported by the downstream display device, preserving
>>> >> > the existing behavior. The code is not validating the DT for
>>> >> > correctness and just fall back to the previous behavior in case of
>>> >> > errors.
>>> >>
>>> >> Why? Generally speaking errors are better spotted immediately, not ignored
>>> >> silently.
>>> >
>>> > My understanding is that the C driver code should not validate the DT
>>> > and that this is the general recommendation when parsing properties from
>>> > the DT.
>>> >
>>> > The DT checker is going to spot errors in the DT even earlier and in a
>>> > static way.

Ah, I forgot... I fully agree static build-time checks are way better than
runtime error checking code. But they are not done as a mandatory and
unconditional step during a build, and so not everybody runs them. Moreover
checks are added over time, so even if all checks pass today some might
fail in the future.

As a result there are plenty of devices out there with invalid dtbs, and
they just work by chance.

It's the hard reality I'm afraid. :(

Luca

--
Luca Ceresoli, Bootlin
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
https://bootlin.com

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-16 14:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-13  9:28 [PATCH v4 0/4] drm: mxsfb: Support LCDIF interface bus width Francesco Dolcini
2026-08-13  9:28 ` [PATCH v4 1/4] dt-bindings: lcdif: Add endpoint bus-width property Francesco Dolcini
2026-08-13 11:33   ` Alexander Stein
2026-08-14  7:23   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-09-16  8:42   ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-13  9:28 ` [PATCH v4 2/4] drm: mxsfb: Add optional DPI output bus-width configuration Francesco Dolcini
2026-09-04 15:53   ` Frank Li
2026-09-16  8:42   ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-09-16  9:15     ` Francesco Dolcini
2026-09-16 11:19       ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-09-16 11:43         ` Francesco Dolcini
2026-09-16 14:30           ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-09-16 14:36             ` Luca Ceresoli [this message]
2026-08-13  9:28 ` [PATCH v4 3/4] ARM: dts: imx6ull-colibri: Set LCDIF bus-width Francesco Dolcini
2026-09-16  8:42   ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-09-16  9:22     ` Francesco Dolcini
2026-09-16 11:12       ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-13  9:28 ` [PATCH v4 4/4] ARM: dts: imx7-colibri: " Francesco Dolcini
2026-09-13 11:10 ` [PATCH v4 0/4] drm: mxsfb: Support LCDIF interface bus width Francesco Dolcini

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