From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sat, 13 Jan 2001 18:58:10 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sat, 13 Jan 2001 18:58:00 -0500 Received: from router-100M.swansea.linux.org.uk ([194.168.151.17]:14089 "EHLO the-village.bc.nu") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sat, 13 Jan 2001 18:57:49 -0500 Subject: Re: ide-floppy [Fwd: Updated ATAPI FORMAT_UNIT patch.] To: paul@paulbristow.net (Paul Bristow) Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 23:59:32 +0000 (GMT) Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org (linux kernel mailing list), alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox) In-Reply-To: <3A60DA06.936CE1F2@paulbristow.net> from "Paul Bristow" at Jan 13, 2001 11:43:18 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: From: Alan Cox Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > One of my concerns is that we don't take the ide-floppy driver in a > different direction to the other removeable media drives. In general the others do it raw via scsi commands and sg. > For Alan Cox, could you back out Sam's patch for now. It will be back > soon. When the new one is sorted. I'm not going to feed it to Linus anyhow. For the moment there are quite a few people glad of it > > > > * Ability to open the device even if there's no disk in the drive. This > > > > is needed by the userspace app to probe the device. The open path sends a Other devices allow this for O_NDELAY only. > > 1) A separate minor device that will open whether or not there's a > > formatted disk in the drive. I don't like this approach. Ugly. Thats a lot of extra devices. > > The O_EXCL trick seems the cleanest way to be able to access the device Use the same O_NDELAY cdroms do > > Suppose that two months from now the Clik drive gets new firmware that > > reports a slightly different model ID, say "IOMEGA Clik! 80 CZ ATAPI". > > Or, perhaps, it's a new model of the Clik drive, that shares the same > > shortcomings. > > Yep. Looks extremely possible. Nod. I've already suggested a seperate blacklist table of device id/flaws as SCSI does - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/